boconnell

I'd love to know the pathology behind somebody who makes a fake message board handle to stir the pot on a wrestling website. It seems like there is zero possible reward for that kind of action.

He has 1 league win over unseeded UALR.

Everyone in this thread posting about how they were the worst is wrong. You can't be the worst and have self awareness. I on the other hand have never been the worst and have actually never been wrong on this forum.

Fish was down 4 with a body lock at the end. And you need to watch more wrestling if you think it's embarrassing to give up points to Teemer.

Plott losing in OT is the only unexpected match on either side. Every other match was a clear favorite clearly winning.

Who cares? It's got nothing to do with the winner of any match.

His brother scored his points from there. He hit low doubles from his knees.

Do you actually think he shot from his knees in this match? He scored as soon as he came off his knees. He hasn't attempted offense from his knees.

Bad PD call.

In this match?

I think he was counting Hamiti grabbing the ankle on the cross body ride.

If he hits that double a few times a match he'll be fine. He did what he needed to and then shut it down.

So you're calling Young based on perceived intent? it makes sense you would see stalling in one match and not the other then.

You think the top guy holding a cross wrist makes it less stalling on the top guy? And Rhodes was absolutely on his belly as much or more than young.

Absolutely. I think Young was stalling. But I have no idea how you call Jamison for riding him like a mule while staying parallel, and then not only don't call Parco for the same, but reward him with 2 stalls on the other guy.

Young is nothing like Amine. Young is great at getting to the legs, bad at finishing, and terrible on bottom. He's not a guy who shuts down action at all.

What makes Howe so high? Does anybody consider Perry an all-time great? Or Tyler Caldwell? That's who stopped him from being more than a 1X champ.

What about his great grandfather? Were any of his great aunts big ladies?

Who acted like Iowa and OSU have the same level of development? I said it was both the athlete and the coach. Then I said Cael is great at picking the right athletes and developing them. I have no idea how you could read my post and reach the conclusion that I was saying PSU isn't the best at development. But it's very easy to read your original post and reach the conclusion that you are ignoring the wrestlers themselves as a factor. Mostly it's easy because you didn't mention them as relevant and declared that Basset's, Blaze's, and Forest's outcomes were set according to the schools they went to.

Yep. Get the right kids and then coach them up. Both are elements of coaching and Cael is great at both. But you can't ignore the athletes and pretend that it's all about coaching them up. I doubt Bassett's outcomes (or Forest's or Blaze's) change 5% based on where they go to school. These kids have already reached a high NCAA level while training primarily in HS rooms. I am quite sure they could succeed in most college rooms.

It's hilarious that you basically make it all about the coaches. Like Basset won't have a say in whether he is used in a way that wears him out. Like Forrest's or Blaze's improvement won't be more about internal drive than anything else. The way you describe it, these kids are just lumps of clay to be molded entirely by the 3 head coaches. The truth is many kids fail and succeed everywhere. Some wear out at Iowa and others don't. Many flourish at PSU and a few don't. Most of it is up to the young men themselves.

Lockett

What an absurd thing to say about a kid who is good at social media.

Isn't it Dake at 4 weight classes and 6 other guys?

Wait. Are we saying a Hollywood movie wasn't accurate to real life?