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I think I saw him do this a couple of times.  Opponent gets in on his leg, but instead of going for an ankle or a crotch lock, Cornella levers the opponent's outside arm with both arms, and uses that leverage to pull his own leg back underneath him (relieving him of the need for doing a split).  Seems like locking the opponent's arm in this manner prevents the opponent from doing anything with that leg.  Haven't seen this before, so perhaps some can provide context/background.

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I'm curious to see video of this, but he's basically locking up a kimura (same submission that DeSantis so famously illegally used on Micic). I use this as a single leg defense in jiu jitsu (where this is a weapon itself), but have not seen it a lot in wrestling. Mark Schultz famously broke the Turkish wrestlers arm with one of these in the 1984 Olympics, but this may be the first time I have seen it used for just the leverage of the grip as opposed to eventually extending the arm against the shoulder. Is he then using it to get the foot back to the mat?

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45 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

I think I saw him do this a couple of times.  Opponent gets in on his leg, but instead of going for an ankle or a crotch lock, Cornella levers the opponent's outside arm with both arms, and uses that leverage to pull his own leg back underneath him (relieving him of the need for doing a split).  Seems like locking the opponent's arm in this manner prevents the opponent from doing anything with that leg.  Haven't seen this before, so perhaps some can provide context/background.

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It sort of looks like a key lock or a kimura but I would need to see in the video how he contorts it to get the leg back.

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Just now, Truzzcat said:

It sort of looks like a key lock or a kimura but I would need to see in the video how he contorts it to get the leg back.

I would think he is using that grip to return the controlled arm to the mat, giving him just one arm to sprawl out of, but I also suck at all of this, so don't listen to me.

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10 minutes ago, pcostilow said:

I would think he is using that grip to return the controlled arm to the mat

In the example pictured. There isn't much more you can do...

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Got a video link, @BigRedFan? The move does look Kimura-based, but does he pull Composto's arm towards his chest or lock it down on the mat? 

If Cornella locked that on the near arm, we could call it a forearm whizzer or something

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5 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

In the example pictured. There isn't much more you can do...

In the lame screen cap, the elbow you see on the left belongs to Composto's right arm, which is locked around Cornella's extended left leg.  Cornella's left hand (both his hands are taped) is locked onto Composto's arm, and his right hand is hooked between Composto's arm and body and grabbing his own left arm.  Cornella then pulls straight back (not to the side), extending Composto's arms (still locked on his leg) and finally pulling Cornella's leg back underneath him.

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16 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

In the example pictured. There isn't much more you can do...

Youre right, I think better wording would have been to staple it to the mat to keep him from re-locking on the leg.

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4 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Got a video link, @BigRedFan? The move does look Kimura-based, but does he pull Composto's arm towards his chest or lock it down on the mat? 

If Cornella locked that on the near arm, we could call it a forearm whizzer or something

Yeah, it reminds me of a shin whizzer in effect.  In later action, Cornella does the usual defense and goes for a crotch lock.  The difference was that in the latter situation, Cornella has both his legs underneath him.

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/15110838-141-lbs-final-vince-cornella-cornell-vs-cj-composto-penn

 

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Just now, pcostilow said:

Youre right, I think better wording would have been to staple it to the mat to keep him from re-locking on the leg.

Wording was fine. The arm in that situation can't do much more that that.

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