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What the heck is the letter of the rule on being put on the shot clock?

How does David Carr get put on the shot clock literally immediately after being in on a double?  (1:45 in this video)

 

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2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

What the heck is the letter of the rule on being put on the shot clock?

How does David Carr get put on the shot clock literally immediately after being in on a double?  (1:45 in this video)

 

It is not a shot clock. We just call it that. It is about passivity. Sidakov spent almost the entire time with one or both feet in the center circle. Carr backed up and circled around the outside. This will always earn you passivity warnings no matter how many failed shots you take. Both these passivity warnings were correct. 

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Criteria to consider a wrestler as passive:

 Evading attacks without counterattacks

 Grapping opponent wrists without starting an attack

 Attacking without any direct contact with the opponent

 Regaining initial position right after beginning an attack

 Fake attacks (Simulation)

 Evading into and maintaining in the passivity zone

Avoiding the Wrestling in the center of the mat

 Fixing his opponent in the passivity zone

 No hooking despite good position

 Defensive wrestling

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15 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

It is not a shot clock. We just call it that. It is about passivity. Sidakov spent almost the entire time with one or both feet in the center circle. Carr backed up and circled around the outside. This will always earn you passivity warnings no matter how many failed shots you take. Both these passivity warnings were correct. 

And per the United World Wrestling International Wrestling Rules it is officially referred to as "Activity Time" or "30 second activity period." Interestingly, the word "clock" is used nowhere in the rules, but I still refer to the action as "being put on the Activity clock." 

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Freestyle values different things. Carr was the aggressor as far as trying to create offense (at least to us folkstyle fans), but his back isn't to the center and he didn't finish the shots so it doesn't count to the refs.

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13 hours ago, 1032004 said:

What the heck is the letter of the rule on being put on the shot clock?

How does David Carr get put on the shot clock literally immediately after being in on a double?  (1:45 in this video)

 

To echo others, center control is valued above all else. Also, there are certain rough time markers in bouts where someone will be called for passivity, no matter what, if scoring isn't happening. Then it's simply, " who's controlling the center less?"

Edited by maligned

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