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3 hours ago, Eagle26 said:

They are very good for sure, but as you pointed out not even top in their state this year. Faith also lost to Wyoming Sem, so at best, they were 3rd in the country THIS YEAR. Even though high school wrestling is getting better and better, being 3rd or lower in your current year kinda disqualifies you from being best all time.

At the end of the season the national ranking was 1. Faith Christian 2. Bishop McCort ... 4) Wyoming Seminary.  So 1st in their state was first in the country.  Those three had split duals with Wyoming Seminary beating Faith Christian early in the season and losing to McCort later.  Faith Christian then beat Bishop McCort to win the state dual title at the end of the season. So the picture might be a little unclear looking at duals, but there were also tournaments.

McCort, Faith Christian, and Wyoming Seminary entered the same tournaments thought the year and Faith Christian won every tournament they entered. Bishop McCort outplaced Wyoming Seminary at every tournament the two of them entered.   Wyoming Seminary is not in the PIAA so their end of season tournament was National Preps where they finished 3rd as a team. By the end of the season the pecking order was pretty clear with Bishop McCort #2 ahead of Wyoming Seminary and behind Faith Christian.

I get the argument that McCort can't be number 1 all time because they were behind Faith Christian, but they were very close with Faith Christian who set a number of records - Most points ever at PIAAs (232.5), most PIAA champions in a season (4, tied with 8 teams), most PIAA place winners in a season (10 tied with 2004 Northampton).  McCort was close with the 2nd most team points ever at PIAAs (218.5), the most PIAA champions in a season (4, tied with 8 teams), and 3rd most PIAA place winners in a season (9). 

2025 Faith Christian had a big three that stacks up pretty well with all these historic teams we have been analyzing in terms of recruiting rankings.

Joe Bachmann (#3 2027), Adam Waters (#7 2026), Nicholas Singer (#18 2027), Cael Weidemoyer (#57 2026), Mark Effendian (#58 2026), Gauge Botero (#68 2025), Jason Singer(#72 2026), Max Stein (#96 2025)

Those rankings are from Flo who doesn't have a 2028 big board yet, but as someone else pointed out other services have Freddy Bachman #1 in the class of 2028. So last years Faith Christian could have 3 top 10s and 4 top 20s.

Looking ahead to next season 3 of Faith Christian's PIAA place winners graduate whereas only 1 of Bishop McCort's is not returning, so it is possible the 2026 team wins PIAAs and the state dual title.  It will be close again.

The past historic teams discussed here did not always wrestle the top opponents and were not perfect.  That 2005 Davison team finished 2nd at the Medina tournament where Metcalf famously beat Schlatter.  The 2004 Davison team that also featured Paul Donahoe won Medina but only by ~4 team points and Medina wasn't the toughest tournament in the country that year.

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