Conservatives are happier than liberals. It’s a fact.

[JimmySpeaks]

America definitely needs immigrants.  Legal ones 

[JimmySpeaks]

6 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

 

Seems like a lot of people are hurrying to post how unafraid THEY are about immigrants. Just like a non-afraid person would. Y'all know that fear and anger are emotions and the more you try to convince us that you aren't fueled by these things the more you prove that you very much are! If you were intellectually honest or emotionally mature you would know this. 

If you had unbiased information, you would use it. Not self-reporting studies that try to prove predetermined points. 

So the fact that we spend $151 Billion a year on unlawful immigrants (after they pay any taxes) is a self reporting study?   Bahahahahahahah

[Caveira]

2 hours ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Do you typically focus on things you need, want, like, or fear? I would say all of the above. Everything else your brain turns into white noise so as not to overwhelm you senses. 
Do you feel you/we need immigrants? I would hazard that you’d answer ‘no’. You’re wrong. 
Do you want immigrants? I would hazard that you’d say ‘no’. That’s your opinion. 
Do you like immigrants? I would hazard that you’d say ‘no’. Again your opinion. 
Do you fear immigrants? I would hazard that if it quacks like a duck. 

We already take on more legal immigrants than any country in the world.  You’ve never heard anyone say to lower that or shut that down.   How many is enough ?   Why is it our sole responsibility ?

[ThreePointTakedown]

2 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Equal rights for all Legal people is an amazing thing.  Self accountability is an even more amazing thing.  

Self accountability for what exactly? 

[ThreePointTakedown]

2 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

We spend $151 Billion on unlawful immigrants each year.  Thats after they pay any taxes.  Look it up. It’s a fact. 

Can you do us a favor and site your source?

[ThreePointTakedown]

2 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=hiw+muchndoes+ameroca+soend+on+unlawful+immigrants+each+year&rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS1057US1057&oq=hiw+muchndoes+ameroca+soend+on+unlawful+immigrants+each+year&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTI0Mzk4ajBqN6gCGbACAeIDBBgBIF_xBV6ECcC2NjHc&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
 

$151 Billion after any taxes paid by unlawfuls.  Fact. 

Your source is an AI manifested number? 
Any idea where AI found it or are you just trusting, without verifying, anything that you think supports your point. 
FYI the first actual link/story from American Immigration Council makes the point that it’s not worth the $ to try mass deportation. 
If you want to cut off your nose to spite your face that is your choice. But spending less and gaining more is better business and anyone with experience in business would agree. Who do we know that might fit that description?

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6 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Can you do us a favor and site your source?

cite

[Caveira]

Budget . House . Gov ?   @ThreePointTakedown

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Yesterday, the House Budget Committee held a hearing entitled “The Cost of the Border Crisis” to highlight the importance of border security and the fiscal implications of President Biden’s failed border policies. Witnesses from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), Texas Public Policy Foundation’s “Secure and Sovereign Texas” Initiative, and Kinney County, Texas, testified before the committee to show the impacts of the border crisis, particularly the southern border, on a local, state, and federal level.

Some key moments from the hearing:

Chairman Arrington (R-TX):
 

 

“The greatest national security threat to the American people is posed by these open borders. The social cost has consistently been well in front of the American people. But I don't think we've talked enough about the financial burden to taxpayers and the fiscal impact.

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) has done a great job. Studies suggest this cost is upwards of $400 billion, but their cost estimate is $150 billion. The lion's share of that cost is borne by state and local governments. State and local governments can't borrow or print money like the federal government, so they have to balance their budgets by either absorbing this cost through raising taxes or they have to cut services to their citizens.”

 

https://budget.house.gov/press-release/the-cost-of-the-border-crisis-1507-billion-and-counting

 

 

 

 

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[ThreePointTakedown]

2 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

The cliche is the liberals are that make excuses and/or quit. Because they don’t like facts. 

Interesting choice of words…. What?!

Fear of something non-existent? Sorry I’m not religious. 
You’ll have to point out these so called facts because I don’t recall you posting anything but AI vibes and fear. 

[Caveira]

News nation and news week?   @ThreePointTakedown

American taxpayers shelled out more than $150 billion on immigrants in the U.S. illegally in 2023 alone, the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) estimates.

DOGE, which is expected to become a federal agency in Donald Trump’s upcoming administration, said in a social media posting the spending compares to projects such as building the Hoover Dam, funding World War I and constructing the atomic bomb and accounted for 2% of the overall U.S. budget.

Newsweek reported that if accurate, the $150.7 billion spent on illegal immigration would rival the $151 billion that the government spent in 2023 to provide income security programs to military veterans and their families in 2023.

 

 

 

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/illegal-immigration-cost-us-taxpayers-150-7b-doge/amp/

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[Caveira]

Homeland . House . Gov?    Says it could be upwards of 451 billion

“Taxpayers have to front nearly half a trillion dollars each year because the Biden administration is not stopping migrants at the southern border”

WASHINGTON, D.C.—This week, the House Committee on Homeland Security majority, led by Chairman Mark E. Green, MD (R-TN), released a shocking new interim report as part of its ongoing, comprehensive oversight investigation into Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas and President Joe Biden’s reckless open-borders policies that have facilitated in the worst border crisis in American history. This report details the immense financial costs of the unprecedented border crisis being borne by American taxpayers, including the costs for health care, shelter, education, and law enforcement, as well as costs forced on private property owners and businesses. According to one estimate, housing and other services just to those who have been released into the United States on Mayorkas’ watch, or entered as known gotaways, could exceed $451 billion.

https://homeland.house.gov/2023/11/16/what-they-are-saying-homeland-majoritys-fourth-interim-report-on-the-financial-cost-of-secretary-mayorkas-border-crisis/

[Caveira]

ABC news?   Citing a study above for 151b but calling it more than 100b  @ThreePointTakedown

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317

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[Caveira]

The center for immigration studies.    (2022.   So higher when they let more in in 2023+)  @ThreePointTakedown

Biden’s open borders will cost taxpayers $100 billion — and counting

It’s good that the average household income in Martha’s Vineyard is $133,000 a year because, hoo-boy, the illegal immigrants who arrived there from Florida this week are going to cost taxpayers a bundle. Over their lifetimes, all the illegal immigrants Biden has so far added to the United States will cost us about $100 billion.

Immigrants don’t create such a large cost for taxpayers because they’re bad or lazy. Immigrants, legal or illegal, are just regular people trying to make it through the day. But their relatively low level of education means the kinds of jobs they can get don’t pay much. That in turn means they pay relatively little in taxes and use more in government services.

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[Caveira]

Congress . Gov?   @ThreePointTakedown

says over 110b

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/116759/witnesses/HMTG-118-IF02-Wstate-RectorR-20240117.pdf

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[wrestlingguy]

@Caveira Please don't quote facts. We are living in fairy land where only emotions matter. That's the "vibe".

[Caveira]

44 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

@Caveira Please don't quote facts. We are living in fairy land where only emotions matter. That's the "vibe".

There is a congressional video somewhere asking these mayors how much they’ve spending on illegals and it’s well into the large billions.   To say they’re not a burden on the tax payers is pure ideological nonsense 

Chicagoans Revolt Over City Spending on Illegal Migrants

 

Chicagoans clearly have a high tolerance for government corruption, fiscal mismanagement and high taxes. But even residents of the Windy City have their limits. Over the last several weeks, public anger and frustration has boiled over as city leaders sought to approve a budget that proposed to spend millions of dollars on illegal aliens. Citizens turned up at a series of City Council meetings to vent their anger about the city’s lavish spending on the migrants who have poured into Chicago since the Biden-Harris administration threw open our borders.

Chicago is a sanctuary city within a sanctuary county within a sanctuary state. According to the city’s website, when migrants show up, they “are greeted by City officials who transport them to temporary shelters, when space is available.” As they settle in, the city provides “legal services, children and youth services, resettlement and wrap-around case management to support them in their process of integration into the City of Chicago.”

Not surprisingly, Chicago has become a magnet for migrants. More than 50,000have settled in the Windy City since August 2022, costing the city an estimated $574.5 million.

https://www.fairus.org/news/state-and-local/chicagoans-revolt-over-city-spending-illegal-migrants

[ThreePointTakedown]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

News nation and news week?   @ThreePointTakedown

American taxpayers shelled out more than $150 billion on immigrants in the U.S. illegally in 2023 alone, the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) estimates.

DOGE, which is expected to become a federal agency in Donald Trump’s upcoming administration, said in a social media posting the spending compares to projects such as building the Hoover Dam, funding World War I and constructing the atomic bomb and accounted for 2% of the overall U.S. budget.

Newsweek reported that if accurate, the $150.7 billion spent on illegal immigration would rival the $151 billion that the government spent in 2023 to provide income security programs to military veterans and their families in 2023.

 

 

 

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/illegal-immigration-cost-us-taxpayers-150-7b-doge/amp/

‘Estimates’?

’If accurate’?

Did you really try use a source that admits it isn’t sure of the information it’s relaying?

They’re asking you to assume the truth as you read the story. How disingenuous! Lame! Try again. Do better.