MAGA Superman turns ICE Agent

[Doublehalf]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Given we are not a fascist country and do not have a fascist leader.   I am not fully understanding your outrage here.  

Agree to disagree 

[Caveira]

16 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

Ok bro... then why is US army vet and citizen being ripped from their car, tear gassed and arrested... 

https://apnews.com/article/us-army-veteran-immigration-raid-53cb22251a01599a0c4d1a8d5650d050

Since some of you like rhymes, here's one for you:

If ICE is around and you are brown, get your a** on the ground!

You are either incredibly naive or incredibly misinformed on what's happening on the ground during their "raids"

Trump invented these types of mistakes right?

December 14, 2011

Immigration crackdown also snares Americans

A growing number of United States citizens have been detained under Obama administration programs intended to detect illegal immigrants who are arrested by local police.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna45665156

[Caveira]

25 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

Agree to disagree 

Here is an Obama era official on video.   She is Obama’s top advisor on immigration.   Her name is Cecilia Munoz.  It’s possible she is brown but I’ll need cnn to confirm for me that she is or isn’t white.  
 

all jokes aside.  She is defending Obama era policies that not only accidentally deported us citizens.   Detained them.   But *gasp* separated immigrant kids from their families.    Given the news coverage and moral outrage that Trump is also separating kids from their parents I’m so surprised Obama did this like a bozz.

Watch the vids boss.   This was on frontline.

The lefts selective outrage on this is fascinating.   What’s good for me but not for theeeeeeee. 

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/immigration-2/lost-in-detention/obama-official-defends-controversial-immigration-policies/

 

PBS is a fascist right wing government funded news org right?  Wait I’m not sure that is correct.  

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[Doublehalf]

22 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Here is an Obama era official on video.   She is Obama’s top advisor on immigration.   Her name is Cecilia Munoz.  It’s possible she is brown but I’ll need cnn to confirm for me that she is or isn’t white.  
 

all jokes aside.  She is defending Obama era policies that not only accidentally deported us citizens.   Detained them.   But *gasp* separated immigrant kids from their families.    Given the news coverage and moral outrage that Trump is also separating kids from their parents I’m so surprised Obama did this like a bozz.

Watch the vids boss.   This was on frontline.

The lefts selective outrage on this is fascinating.   What’s good for me but not for theeeeeeee. 

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/immigration-2/lost-in-detention/obama-official-defends-controversial-immigration-policies/

 

PBS is a fascist right wing government funded news org right?  Wait I’m not sure that is correct.  

Dude you are going off the rails... 

I don't believe in deporting US citizens regardless of who does it. I don't believe in separating families regardless of who does it. This is the issue with you MAGAs- it always comes back to "whataboutism!?!?!"

Like why can't something just be wrong? Why can't you admit something isn't right even if your cult leader engages in it? Because people aren't running around waving Obama flags and wearing idiotic hats like the MAGAs... One side is clearly a cult/facist party, the other just has opposing beliefs as you. 
 

You can not believe this admin is fascist but I certainly do and there are A LOT of other people that do as well and highlighting a random PBS article is not changing that no matter how bad you want it to or sad it makes you feel...

Facts not feelings right???? No need to be so triggered....

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, Doublehalf said:

Dude you are going off the rails... 

I don't believe in deporting US citizens regardless of who does it. I don't believe in separating families regardless of who does it. This is the issue with you MAGAs- it always comes back to "whataboutism!?!?!"

Like why can't something just be wrong? Why can't you admit something isn't right even if your cult leader engages in it? Because people aren't running around waving Obama flags and wearing idiotic hats like the MAGAs... One side is clearly a cult/facist party, the other just has opposing beliefs as you. 
 

You can not believe this admin is fascist but I certainly do and there are A LOT of other people that do as well and highlighting a random PBS article is not changing that no matter how bad you want it to or sad it makes you feel...

Facts not feelings right???? No need to be so triggered....

It’s pretty simple.  I don’t want us citizens deported either.  It’s naive to think any program can be 100% accurate.  That’s unfair but that’s life.   So if you’re committed to deporting illegals you should minimize as much as possible errors but reality is there will be some.  
 

my comment is not really on that.   Ds say Trump is a fascist bla bla because he deports and separates families etc…. While they do the same shyte.   There wasn’t a cnn news piece 16,762 times a day when king Obama did it.  No one called him a dictator.   No one called him a fascist.   No one said he was ending democracy.  It’s that hypocrisy on the left that people are sick of.   

[Tripnsweep]

3 hours ago, Paul158 said:

I think you will find he has been through the training he needs to do the job. If not I'm sure he will get the necessary training, he needs to be effective.

Reserve officers aren't required to be certified. They exist in support roles, they don't make arrests or investigate.

[Doublehalf]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

.   Ds say Trump is a fascist bla bla because he deports and separates families etc…. While they do the same shyte.   There wasn’t a cnn news piece 16,762 times a day when king Obama did it.  No one called him a dictator.   No one called him a fascist.   No one said he was ending democracy.  It’s that hypocrisy on the left that people are sick of.   

My dude... people don't say he's a facist because he deports people... they say he's a facist because HE IS A FACIST hahah... everything he does is text book facism.
 

Trying to make some kind of moral equivalency to Obama with a guy that's been impeached twice, incited insurrection, been through 3 marriages, convicted of sexual assault and very clearly is involved in some way with the trafficking or sexual abuse of young girls is not the same... Has Obama done things or made mistakes I don't agree with? Sure... But its not even close to just how screwed up MAGA is and their basic desire to lock up everyone that doen't kiss the ring.

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

My dude... people don't say he's a facist because he deports people... they say he's a facist because HE IS A FACIST hahah... everything he does is text book facism.
 

Trying to make some kind of moral equivalency to Obama with a guy that's been impeached twice, incited insurrection, been through 3 marriages, convicted of sexual assault and very clearly is involved in some way with the trafficking or sexual abuse of young girls is not the same... Has Obama done things or made mistakes I don't agree with? Sure... But its not even close to just how screwed up MAGA is and their basic desire to lock up everyone that doen't kiss the ring.

Here is a good one.  Your boy back rub Billy Clinton put illegal alien Haitian’s and Cubans in Guantanamo bay.  Woot.   Crazy.    Did fifa threaten to cancel all of soccer for fear of Fascist Billy and his brown person hate???   brown people going to Guantanamo bay?    Alligator prison outrage !!!!   
 

The first major immigration issue faced by President Bill Clinton dealt with Haitian refugees who were being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba after being rescued by the U.S. Coast Guard. After campaigning against the policy of repatriation, Clinton reversed course and maintained it. By 1994 tens of thousands of Haitians and Cubans were held in a refugee camp at Guantanamo Bay.

https://www.boundless.com/blog/clinton/

Edited 12 hours ago by Caveira

[Doublehalf]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Here is a good one.  Your boy back rub Billy Clinton put illegal alien Haitian’s and Cubans in Guantanamo bay.  Woot.   Crazy.    Did fifa threaten to cancel all of soccer for fear of Fascist Billy?   brown people going to Guantanamo bay?    Alligator prison outrage !!!!   
 

The first major immigration issue faced by President Bill Clinton dealt with Haitian refugees who were being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba after being rescued by the U.S. Coast Guard. After campaigning against the policy of repatriation, Clinton reversed course and maintained it. By 1994 tens of thousands of Haitians and Cubans were held in a refugee camp at Guantanamo Bay.

https://www.boundless.com/blog/clinton/

Oy vey.... Bro I don't agree with you and you can go back and find a damn piece of parchment to quote from 150 years ago for all I care haha... it doesn't change the fact Trump/MAGA is a facist party.

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Doublehalf

[JimmySpeaks]

7 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

Oy vey.... Bro I don't agree with you and you can go back and find a damn piece of parchment to quote from 150 years ago for all I care haha... it doesn't change the fact Trump/MAGA is a facist party.

 

That’s all you have……  facist, racist, but Trump.   Dems have the worst poll ratings ever. Why?
 

woke commies.  That’s why 

Edited 11 hours ago by JimmySpeaks

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

Oy vey.... Bro I don't agree with you and you can go back and find a damn piece of parchment to quote from 150 years ago for all I care haha... it doesn't change the fact Trump/MAGA is a facist party.

 

He put 10s of thousands of brown people in gitmo.  Yet you maintain Trump puts people in prison who don’t kiss the ring.   Weird right?  
 

read this number.  According to Google.   More than 51,000 illegal aliens.  Seeking sanctuary.   from third world hell holes.   51,000+ were put in Guantanamo bay.  By a democrat president.      Every single one of them was black or brown.    Were some of them separated from their parents lol.   
 

Totally a different scenario lol.    Not one cnn article about the fascist dropping huge numbers of brown dudes in Guantanamo.  

[headshuck]

[Tripnsweep]

Obama wore a tan suit though. That's clearly on the same level as being found responsible for sexual assault and committing fraud. 

[Doublehalf]

6 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

worst poll ratings ever

I thought polls weren't to be trusted??? Pick a lane MAGA

[Doublehalf]

 

Also... why does one need to strategize if they are innocent and already promised to release files??? Reeks of guilt and cover up...

[WrestlingRasta]

The whole thing with whatabouts is an inability to hold one’s own accountable.  It’s much easier on the psyche to point out someone else doing wrong than to acknowledge my guy/person/group is doing wrong.  We saw it in the last administration and ‘what about’ for Biden back to Trump, just like we are seeing it now with Biden and Obama. Two sides of the same coin. 
 

It’s a lot like the parent that comes in to meet the principal because their kid f***ed up.  Instead of taking the steps and strategy to ensure their kid won’t make the same mistake again, it’s easier to find other kids who have done it.  The problem with all these whatabouts is they won’t promote any growth or improvement in behaviors.  It’s enabling.  And that’s the number one political strategy these days, deflect what my party is doing wrong and look got and scream and yell what the other party is doing wrong (even if my party is doing the same d**n thing).   And unfortunately many of we the people fall for it hook line and singer and flock around like parrots

[Doublehalf]

5 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

The whole thing with whatabouts is an inability to hold one’s own accountable.  It’s much easier on the psyche to point out someone else doing wrong than to acknowledge my guy/person/group is doing wrong.  We saw it in the last administration and ‘what about’ for Biden back to Trump, just like we are seeing it now with Biden and Obama. Two sides of the same coin. 
 

It’s a lot like the parent that comes in to meet the principal because their kid f***ed up.  Instead of taking the steps and strategy to ensure their kid won’t make the same mistake again, it’s easier to find other kids who have done it.  The problem with all these whatabouts is they won’t promote any growth or improvement in behaviors.  It’s enabling.  And that’s the number one political strategy these days, deflect what my party is doing wrong and look got and scream and yell what the other party is doing wrong (even if my party is doing the same d**n thing).   And unfortunately many of we the people fall for it hook line and singer and flock around like parrots

I agree with this 

[Caveira]

12 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

The whole thing with whatabouts is an inability to hold one’s own accountable.  It’s much easier on the psyche to point out someone else doing wrong than to acknowledge my guy/person/group is doing wrong.  We saw it in the last administration and ‘what about’ for Biden back to Trump, just like we are seeing it now with Biden and Obama. Two sides of the same coin. 
 

It’s a lot like the parent that comes in to meet the principal because their kid f***ed up.  Instead of taking the steps and strategy to ensure their kid won’t make the same mistake again, it’s easier to find other kids who have done it.  The problem with all these whatabouts is they won’t promote any growth or improvement in behaviors.  It’s enabling.  And that’s the number one political strategy these days, deflect what my party is doing wrong and look got and scream and yell what the other party is doing wrong (even if my party is doing the same d**n thing).   And unfortunately many of we the people fall for it hook line and singer and flock around like parrots

Overwhelmingly people want the illegals out.  The people who want them out are not crying holy hell over a few mistakes.  The liberal people that wanted them here and not deported are the ones whining.  &nbsp
 

their is no system that can be 100.0% accurate.   It isn’t like 51,000 citizens got deported.   
 

Here is a number for you.   6 months in.  Judges have had Trump bring back 4 people.    F-o-u-r.    51,000 minus 4 is 50,996.   Your what-about comment is nonsense.  It isn’t happening in large enough volume relative to the volume of the people on left that whine about it.    The pro illegal alien +  sanctuary city whiny people.   
 

fun fact.  That section of people were going to whine either way no matter what Trump did.  No matter how effective or ineffective he is.  That’s just the reality of politics.   

[WrestlingRasta]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Overwhelmingly people want the illegals out.  The people who want them out are not crying holy hell over a few mistakes.  The liberal people that wanted them here and not deported are the ones whining.  &nbsp
 

their is no system that can be 100.0% accurate.   It isn’t like 51,000 citizens got deported.   
 

Here is a number for you.   6 months in.  Judges have had Trump bring back 4 people.    F-o-u-r.    51,000 minus 4 is 50,996.   Your what-about comment is nonsense.  It isn’t happening in large enough volume relative to the volume of the people on left that whine about it.    The pro illegal alien +  sanctuary city whiny people.   
 

fun fact.  That section of people were going to whine either way no matter what Trump did.  No matter how effective or ineffective he is.  That’s just the reality of politics.   

Did you quote the correct person?   I mentioned nothing of deportations.  I was strictly talking about whatabouting. Not sure if you noticed your response was a completely different subject matter than what you quoted. 

[Doublehalf]

6 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Did you quote the correct person?   I mentioned nothing of deportations.  I was strictly talking about whatabouting. Not sure if you noticed your response was a completely different subject matter than what you quoted. 

I feel this, the dude has a hard time following and just gets on his own line of thought and can't adapt in a conversation to its fluidity and keeps coming back to whatever fixation he has.  I'm realizing it's almost a waste of time to engage when there is no progress or evolution in the dialogue.

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Did you quote the correct person?   I mentioned nothing of deportations.  I was strictly talking about whatabouting. Not sure if you noticed your response was a completely different subject matter than what you quoted. 

I covered that.  My what about.  Was about every/all presidents including Trump accidentally deported us citizens.    Y’all didn’t care until it was Trump.   Everything immigration wise y’all on the left whine about all your presidents did too.  It’s relevant.  It’s not what about.   It’s reality.  It’s also hypocrisy.    But hypocrisy is often a one way street.  

[WrestlingRasta]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I covered that.  My what about.  Was about every/all presidents including Trump accidentally deported us citizens.    Y’all didn’t care until it was Trump.   Everything immigration wise y’all on the left whine about all your presidents did too.  It’s relevant.  It’s not what about.   It’s reality.  It’s also hypocrisy.    But hypocrisy is often a one way street.  

"Ya'll"??   Can you find one thing I have said about deportations, arguing deportations in context of one president vs another?  Can you find one single post?

"Ya'll on the left"?  You haven't been paying attention.   Can you find one leftist policy I have argued for?  One?

"Ya'll" didn't care....."??   Are you of some belief that anyone that is not 100% in line with your way of thinking makes up just one group and one way of thinking, and it's automatically "leftist".   

 

I agree with you on one thing, a lot of hypocrisy.   Strongly disagree it's often a one way street.   

 

[Caveira]

Just now, WrestlingRasta said:

"Ya'll"??   Can you find one thing I have said about deportations, arguing deportations in context of one president vs another?  Can you find one single post?

"Ya'll on the left"?  You haven't been paying attention.   Can you find one leftist policy I have argued for?  One?

"Ya'll" didn't care....."??   Are you of some belief that anyone that is not 100% in line with your way of thinking makes up just one group and one way of thinking, and it's automatically "leftist".   

 

I agree with you on one thing, a lot of hypocrisy.   Strongly disagree it's often a one way street.   

 

I do have to say this Rasta.  You are pretty fair.   I certainly don’t agree with you all the time but you are fair Etc…. And I’m not joking.  So your y’all comment is fair here.    
 

 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, Doublehalf said:

I thought polls weren't to be trusted??? Pick a lane MAGA

Where have I ever said that??  I’ll wait. 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, Doublehalf said:

I thought polls weren't to be trusted??? Pick a lane MAGA

Even with a margin of error at plus or minus 10 points they’d still be the worst on record.