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Everyone knows about the lazy wrestlers who just want to get off the mat and get some rest - The Pinfellers.

But what about the guys who like to play with their food, get in the extra work, score more points - The Rinse and Repeaters.

There was a time when there was no tech fall. If you wanted to take a guy down, cut him ,and do it all over again (and again and again), you could. It wasn't your job to stop you from running up the score. It was the other guy's job. So it is a pleasant surprise that the top match point scorer of all-time comes from the TF era (1985 - present).

I give you the guys who racked up the points on the way to victory.

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Of course, this isn't all about takedowns. Back points were available. But it is a lot about takedowns.

These totals do not include any points scored on the way to pinfalls, as those are not recorded in the brackets.

Now let's look at just the TF era. For this we will go a bit deeper to include anyone who scored at least 75 match points in a single tournament

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You may be wondering how that compares to recent times. Well, wonder no more. The leaders for the 2025 tournament:

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Anyone else surprised to see Mesenbrink outscored at his own weight?

 

Edited by Wrestleknownothing
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It's suprising, but Hall had almost all high scoring matches. When he won by decision it was usually like 8-1, and scored a takedown in all but 3 matches. He also wrestled 5 more matches than Mesenbrink which put him over the edge. I wish he got more attention because he was really exciting to watch at ncaas.

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Someone asked a question about losing scores in TF matches over time on HVI.

Here is the answer.

Something happened in 2003. But I can find nothing in the rules to explain it.

  • From 1985 to 2002 the average TF losing score was 3.7 and never below 2.6
  • Then it fell off a cliff from 2003 to 2010 to an average of 2.0
  • Since 2011 the average has recovered a little to 2.7, but never returned to the good old days.

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14 hours ago, Caveira said:

3 point td and 4 pt near fall normalized to 2 and 3 or kept the same ?

I checked that one. The shift from 3 pt to either 2 or 4 didn't happen until 2016.

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1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I checked that one. The shift from 3 pt to either 2 or 4 didn't happen until 2016.

I know.  Had to joke that all the extra scoring isn’t really making matches feel like they did in the olden days.    

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