MAHA!

[WrestlingRasta]

4 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Maybe this is already known but thought I'd mention that with most things there isn't necessarily a "good" or "bad" debate about a substance, but rather when does that substance become "bad"...how much of something is what causes something to become "bad".  Nearly every substance known becomes "bad" at some point if too much of it is ingested...whether taken to much at once (aka water toxicity), or over a period of time (aka cigarettes).

Very true.   I mean I eat pretty much as close as farm to table as possible. But we all know steak three times a day is not necessarily recommended. 
 

But to get back to the beginning point of this discussion, which was chemically manufactured sweetener vs natural raw sweetener, I will take natural raw every single time.   (For me, that is where the ‘common sense’ comes into play) 
 

But the beauty of the human species is we are all different, and the beauty of this country is we can all make our own choices.  

Edited 2 hours ago by WrestlingRasta

[Undefeated]

18 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I use DuckDuckGo which doesn’t save your searches 

Google won't save your searches if you're using Incognito mode either - but DuckDuckGo takes it a step further. It doesn’t save anything - no searches, no cookies, nothing.

Personally, I kinda like when apps save my searches. Makes them work better for me. The only one that’s ever annoyed the hell outta me was Instagram. Like, God forbid you click on one random pic - it’ll never let it go.

One time I looked at a photo of a bodybuilder and after that, it was like nonstop - not just bodybuilders but every jacked-up, sketchy-looking dude on the planet.

[1032004]

31 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Not at all accurate:

1) I specifically said I am not trying to convince you of anything, but merely talking at this point about doing the research subjectively. I will acknowledge you quoted more from the Mayo article than I originally realized, went back and looked and will correct that.  
 

2) “Common sense”.  Artificial, manufactured food vs natural raw whole food. I don’t know what you want me to provide that shows common sense. 
 

3) I have listed more than “common sense” as for the basis of my opinion. I also listed years, decades actually, of taking the subject very very seriously and studying it as such, I don’t think I can go back and find the material I have studied over the last 30 some years to provide for you.  I also stated personal experience.  I’m not sure what you would like me to provide in that sense.  I mean, I have a picture from kayaking last weekend I could post to show what kinds of effects my choices have had, but I don’t think we wanna go there. 

 

Just because something is artificial doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad.  Just like just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s good.

And again, I’m not necessarily saying they’re “good.”  I’m just not convinced they’re especially bad.

Your last paragraph IMO shows the flaws in your thinking here.  I of course don’t care if someone chooses not to eat artificial sweeteners, and obviously one can be very healthy without them.  My point is that I don’t really think they’re as bad as some people claim, and I think it’s reckless particularly when people claim (as I believe you did earlier in this thread) that they are even worse than other added sugars, when there have been numerous studies showing artificial sweeteners are superior to other added sugars in multiple important health metrics.

[Caveira]

Just now, 1032004 said:

 

Just because something is artificial doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad.  Just like just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s good.

And again, I’m not necessarily saying they’re “good.”  I’m just not convinced they’re especially bad.

Your last paragraph IMO shows the flaws in your thinking here.  I of course don’t care if someone chooses not to eat artificial sweeteners, and obviously one can be very healthy without them.  My point is that I don’t really think they’re as bad as some people claim, and I think it’s reckless particularly when people claim (as I believe you did earlier in this thread) that they are even worse than other added sugars, when there have been numerous studies showing artificial sweeteners are superior to other added sugars in multiple important health metrics.

Literally nothing that comes out of this administration….. can you consider good in any way?    Do you think that statement is good for americans?   Is there a hypothetical item that could come out of this administration that you could get on board with?

[1032004]

13 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Literally nothing that comes out of this administration….. can you consider good in any way?    Do you think that statement is good for americans?   Is there a hypothetical item that could come out of this administration that you could get on board with?

What does the post you quoted have to do with this administration?

I did provide an example earlier in this very thread of something I thought was good from the administration though.

[WrestlingRasta]

11 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

 

Just because something is artificial doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad.  Just like just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s good.

And again, I’m not necessarily saying they’re “good.”  I’m just not convinced they’re especially bad.

Your last paragraph IMO shows the flaws in your thinking here.  I of course don’t care if someone chooses not to eat artificial sweeteners, and obviously one can be very healthy without them.  My point is that I don’t really think they’re as bad as some people claim, and I think it’s reckless particularly when people claim (as I believe you did earlier in this thread) that they are even worse than other added sugars, when there have been numerous studies showing artificial sweeteners are superior to other added sugars in multiple important health metrics.

If you took a minute to go back and look instead of guessing a claim I made, you will see that I was talking specifically about natural raw sugar, not “other added sugars”. 
 

As for chemically manufactured vs raw natural, well we will just have to, along with the overall point of this discussion, agree to disagree and go along with our own personal choices.   Again, it is a beautiful thing about this country. 

[1032004]

15 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

If you took a minute to go back and look instead of guessing a claim I made, you will see that I was talking specifically about natural raw sugar, not “other added sugars”. 
 

So what’s your opinion on artificial sweeteners vs high fructose corn syrup?

[Caveira]

23 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

What does the post you quoted have to do with this administration?

I did provide an example earlier in this very thread of something I thought was good from the administration though.

In your sea of negative answers what pray tell was it?

[WrestlingRasta]

8 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

So what’s your opinion on artificial sweeteners vs high fructose corn syrup?

Also discussed by me earlier in our discussion.  For the sake of not being an enabler, I’m going to have to ask you to take the effort to go back and review.