Today's college graduates have a ....

[JimmySpeaks]

Progressives.  Like democrats changed 

[JimmySpeaks]

5 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

This VERY sentence tells me you don't understand "Left" and "right" to begin with.

It was America's CONSERVATIVE wing that was legislating segregation. 

You don't even know what conservative or progressive means! 

The PROGRESSIVES were against segregation. 

If only you played with words as well as you play with yourself.  

[El Luchador]

1 minute ago, scourge165 said:

LOL...dude, what are you talking about?

NOBODY said he was a globalist. He was an Ethnocentric Nationalist! That...IS about as Right Wing as you can get.

He also took STATE owned industries like Steel, Mining, Banking and PRIVITIZED them in an attempt to garner support from industrialists and stimulate economic growth.

It was PRIVATE INDUSTRY that propelled the Nazi Party to prominence starting in 1932.

He banned labor unions, he threw socialists(and communists) in Prison! 

That you keep arguing he was a "Socialist" in the face of ALL the evidence at this point means you KNOW you're wrong, you can't admit you're wrong, but you're going to double down and keep arguing because you don't understand where and why they were named the NAZI party and as long as you can repeat that one line...again, despite ALL historical and empirical data, you can just keep cutting and pasting that same reply!

 

I'm honestly getting embarrassed for you.

 

 

Err...but...he wasn't a Globalist and... and it says NAZI, so he was a leftist!

He is the definition of "FAR RIGHT," and I really can't believe this is even being debated...

 

It really says a lot about you that you not only don't already know this, but that you're so insecure about Hitler's politics being far "right," that you have to argue this hard. 

It says even more that you have to call me a Communist to begin with or assign the beliefs of Mao or Lenin to me. It's an intellectually lazy argument people who aren't capable of independent thought fall back on(sorta like calling everyone they don't like a NAZI)... but I'm pretty sure yo KNOW you're wrong here, you're just not willing to admit as much. 

You embarrassed for me but you wrote all that while totally missing my point. I'll make it decisively clear. 1933 Hitler outlawed all political parties.  His issue with opposing Socialists was they wanted global socialism he wanted national socialism.  Are you completely unable to analyze simple facts. Litteral all his positions on issues aligned with the left of his time and all the political strategies of the left today are taken from the 1930 Nazi play book. He literally locked up everyone who opposed not just the ones you cherry picked. 

[El Luchador]

7 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

This VERY sentence tells me you don't understand "Left" and "right" to begin with.

It was America's CONSERVATIVE wing that was legislating segregation. 

You don't even know what conservative or progressive means! 

The PROGRESSIVES were against segregation. 

You couldn't be more wrong about Jim Crow laws they  were a wholly owned subsidiary of the American left.  You literally are clueless about really.  You are a shinning example of a brainwashed idiot.  The KKK was damn near a division of the Democrat party. 

[scourge165]

1 hour ago, El Luchador said:

https://wallbuilders.com/resource/the-nazis-really-were-socialists/

LMFAO!!!!!

wallbuilders.com!

Oh god... you should not be allowed to talk about higher education any more;

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The website WallBuilders.com is operated by WallBuilders, a Texas-based organization founded by David Barton in 1988. Barton is an evangelical Christian author and political activist known for promoting the view that the United States was established as a Christian nation. He has been influential in conservative and Christian nationalist circles, though his interpretations of American history have been widely criticized by historians for inaccuracies and promoting pseudohistory.

You've already lost this debate when you use the Barton family.

Again, the Germans literally PRIVATIZED industry, banned unions and leaned on industrialists in order to thrive. 

 

I like the argument that despite Hitler emphasizing personal property rights, THIS little snippet proves he...didn't honor them'

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However, although the term “private property” was preserved, it remained little more than an entry in the dictionaries. At any moment, if the Nazi leadership demanded it, anyone could be deprived of all their assets without warning or recourse.

Yes...BECAUSE HE WAS A DICTATOR!!

They seized all Jewish owned property and business and transferred it either to the state or to PRIVATE industry... which is PRETTY tough when you're a socialist!

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, El Luchador said:

You couldn't be more wrong about Jim Crow laws they  were a wholly owned subsidiary of the American left.  You literally are clueless about really.  You are a shinning example of a brainwashed idiot.  The KKK was damn near a division of the Democrat party. 

It WAS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY 

[scourge165]

2 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

You couldn't be more wrong about Jim Crow laws they  were a wholly owned subsidiary of the American left.  You literally are clueless about really.  You are a shinning example of a brainwashed idiot.  The KKK was damn near a division of the Democrat party. 

Please define Conservative and Progressive for me, will ya bud?

Because it's NOT Democrat or Republican. 

 

How do you have such a rudimentary understanding of even the most basic terms? 

 

When one side wants to PRESERVE life in a Country as it currently exists, they are...what?

When one side wants CHANGE, they are...what? Can you answer this most BASIC question?

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Please define Conservative and Progressive for me, will ya bud?

Because it's NOT Democrat or Republican. 

 

How do you have such a rudimentary understanding of even the most basic terms? 

 

When one side wants to PRESERVE life in a Country as it currently exists, they are...what?

When one side wants CHANGE, they are...what? Can you answer this most BASIC question?

Progressive is semantics for Socialist. 

[El Luchador]

3 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

LMFAO!!!!!

wallbuilders.com!

Oh god... you should not be allowed to talk about higher education any more;

You've already lost this debate when you use the Barton family.

Again, the Germans literally PRIVATIZED industry, banned unions and leaned on industrialists in order to thrive. 

 

I like the argument that despite Hitler emphasizing personal property rights, THIS little snippet proves he...didn't honor them'

Yes...BECAUSE HE WAS A DICTATOR!!

They seized all Jewish owned property and business and transferred it either to the state or to PRIVATE industry... which is PRETTY tough when you're a socialist!

When you make weak arguments from perceived authority, I don't read the rest of your rhetoric.  When you address anything but the substance you're talking to yourself.  

[scourge165]

10 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

You embarrassed for me but you wrote all that while totally missing my point. I'll make it decisively clear. 1933 Hitler outlawed all political parties.  His issue with opposing Socialists was they wanted global socialism he wanted national socialism.  Are you completely unable to analyze simple facts. Litteral all his positions on issues aligned with the left of his time and all the political strategies of the left today are taken from the 1930 Nazi play book. He literally locked up everyone who opposed not just the ones you cherry picked. 

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He also took STATE owned industries like Steel, Mining, Banking and PRIVITIZED them in an attempt to garner support from industrialists and stimulate economic growth.

It was PRIVATE INDUSTRY that propelled the Nazi Party to prominence starting in 1932.

He banned labor unions

 

 

I'll just keep repeating this and you can reconcile how an Ethnocentric Nationalist who took Government owned industries, privatized them and then worked with private industry...was a Socialist. 

[JimmySpeaks]

And everyone knows a socialist is just a patient communist. 

[scourge165]

Just now, El Luchador said:

When you make weak arguments from perceived authority, I don't read the rest of your rhetoric.  When you address anything but the substance you're talking to yourself.  

I've addressed only the substance. You don't like the facts, so you will ignore the facts. That's...as expected. 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, scourge165 said:

I've addressed only the substance. You don't like the facts, so you will ignore the facts. That's...as expected. 

You’ve ignored the facts 

[El Luchador]

1 minute ago, scourge165 said:

 

I'll just keep repeating this and you can reconcile how an Ethnocentric Nationalist who took Government owned industries, privatized them and then worked with private industry...was a Socialist. 

Easy, when you take absolute control of everything and dictate to all companies how they will conduct themselves and you are the government, you have practical socialism. I'm glad you're showing interest in learning. 

[scourge165]

Just now, El Luchador said:

Easy, when you take absolute control of everything and dictate to all companies how they will conduct themselves and you are the government, you have practical socialism. I'm glad you're showing interest in learning. 

Yes, it's a VERY common trait for socialists to come into authority and take Government runs industries and...privatize them!

 

You're flailing here...badly. You're effectively arguing 'dictator=leftist.' 

I've provided ample evidence and now you're just trying to water down this debate and dumb it down. Hitler wasn't a socialist, he was on the far right.

 

[El Luchador]

4 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Yes, it's a VERY common trait for socialists to come into authority and take Government runs industries and...privatize them!

 

You're flailing here...badly. You're effectively arguing 'dictator=leftist.' 

I've provided ample evidence and now you're just trying to water down this debate and dumb it down. Hitler wasn't a socialist, he was on the far right.

 

Your desperation is showing. Ignore the large details concentrate on the wording.  

[scourge165]

1 minute ago, El Luchador said:

Your desperation is showing. Ignore the large details concentrate on the wording.  

I don't know what you're talking about here. I didn't focus in on any wording...you're wrong. I've proven you wrong in this post and now you're just doing the 'nuh-uh, you are.' 

 

I'm not desperate, I'm just done. I pointed out the private companies Hitler did business with, I pointed out the Government run industries that he privatized, I've pointed out the likes of Friedrich Krupp and other industrialists who supported Hitler.

 

YOUR argument is, 'but...it the National Socialist Party,' and I even addressed that. 

 

If you need to believe that Hitler, the MOST obvious example of the far right we've ever seen...is in fact not because you fall back to these lazy talking points, ok. Ignorance, unlike stupidity is a choice. Remain ignorant(though as I said earlier, I don't believe YOU believe your argument at this point). 

[El Luchador]

7 hours ago, scourge165 said:

I don't know what you're talking about here. I didn't focus in on any wording...you're wrong. I've proven you wrong in this post and now you're just doing the 'nuh-uh, you are.' 

 

I'm not desperate, I'm just done. I pointed out the private companies Hitler did business with, I pointed out the Government run industries that he privatized, I've pointed out the likes of Friedrich Krupp and other industrialists who supported Hitler.

 

YOUR argument is, 'but...it the National Socialist Party,' and I even addressed that. 

 

If you need to believe that Hitler, the MOST obvious example of the far right we've ever seen...is in fact not because you fall back to these lazy talking points, ok. Ignorance, unlike stupidity is a choice. Remain ignorant(though as I said earlier, I don't believe YOU believe your argument at this point). 

It's not like dozens of scholars have written on the subject.  Of course that wasn't what your university spoon feed you so it couldn't be true. Maybe try  more of an autodidactical approach to learning. 

[Tripnsweep]

2 hours ago, El Luchador said:

It's not like dozens of scholars have written on the subject.  Of course that wasn't what your university spoon feed you so it couldn't be true. Maybe try  more of an autodidactical approach to learning. 

Name 3 legitimate ones who have. Go ahead. 

[El Luchador]

 

 

 

[scourge165]

14 hours ago, El Luchador said:

It's not like dozens of scholars have written on the subject.  Of course that wasn't what your university spoon feed you so it couldn't be true. Maybe try  more of an autodidactical approach to learning. 

Hey, listen kid, I've cited NUMEROUS experts here.

 

You're wrong, I've proven you were wrong in EVERY possible way one can prove you were wrong and you just keep saying, 'nuh-uh,' and now you're having OTHERS argue your point for you. 

 

Again, ETHNOCENTRIC NATIONALISTS who take Public Industry and Privatize it and give it BACK to industrialists... and have MOST of their Military built buy PRIVATE industry...are not socialists... you moron. 

If you're too stupid to grasp this by now, you're just not going to get it and you'll search the corners of the internet for whoever will support you. 

[scourge165]

This is going to come down to critical thinking ability and yours started with "National Socialist Party," so he MUST be socialist! This despite an objectively far right ideology behind EVERYTHING Hitler did in trying to build an Ethnocentric Nationalist state of Germany. EVERYTHING he did was in service of that. 

But lets use your logic;

I guess the People's REPUBLIC of China and the Democratic People's REPUBLIC of Korea are both Republican institutions, right? I mean, they have Republic in their names! I guess we've been looking at them all wrong! LOL... maybe defaulting to a classical Nomenclature to default to a superficial "Right/Left" designation is... well...stupid. 

 

This entire debate in trying to use American Politics to frame the Nazi's, Lenin...or the guy who YOU think is the biggest threat to Domestic Terrorism, POL POT(I still find that amusing) is inherently flawed as American Political Parties as they exist today, even with the hatred of each other are FAR more similar than they are different.

It'd be as if you used a Football Field to contrast the "Left" and "Right." 

The Democrats would be at about one 49 yard line, the Republicans the other 49 yard line, Lenin would be on the backline of one endzone and Hitler would be on the other, also on the same endzone.

 

But in your limited thinking, you have to resort to 'you left=you=Mao...or Pol Pot,' but where you lose credibility is where you argue...sincerely that there is NOBODY bad on the EXTREME right of that. 

 

If you can't even admit that an Ethno-Nationalist who...again, as I said(repeatedly) privatized industry and relied on private industry like Ford, Krupp(particularly Krupp), Volkswagen among numerous others... because you're more fixated on the 'you-democrat-same size as Nazi,' then you're really trying to argue there is NO right wing that is "bad."

 

 

I once again provide yet another source(while you can post a video because you're unable to articulate your own thoughts).

 

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An example of a far-right ideology is Identitarianism, a European ethno-nationalist movement that emphasizes preserving white European identity. Identitarians assert that Western culture and demographics are under threat from immigration, multiculturalism, and globalization. They promote the "Great Replacement" conspiracy theory, which alleges a deliberate effort to replace white populations with non-European immigrants. The movement advocates for policies like "remigration" (deporting immigrants) and opposes cultural mixing, aligning with broader far-right ideologies that emphasize nationalism, xenophobia, and authoritarianism. en.wikipedia.orgthetimes.co.uk+1en.wikipedia.org+1gale.com+1theguardian.com+1

Other notable far-right ideologies include:

• Neo-Nazism: A revival of Nazi ideology, characterized by antisemitism, white supremacy, and admiration for Adolf Hitler. splcenter.org

• White Nationalism: Advocates for a white-only nation, often promoting racial segregation and opposing immigration from non-white countries. splcenter.org

• National Conservatism: Emphasizes national identity, traditional values, and opposition to liberalism and multiculturalism. en.wikipedia.org

• Bolsonarism: Named after Brazilian politician Jair Bolsonaro, this ideology combines nationalism, authoritarianism, and opposition to leftist policies. en.wikipedia.org

 

 

Now, the ONLY reason to deny these are extreme right ideologies is beacuse you simply can't grasp that extemism of any belief system is corrupted and dangerous and only the left is "bad." 

 

Oh, you never did answer what the definitions of CONSERVATIVE and PROGRESIVE were for me when you claimed it was the "Left" that tried to argue it was the PROGRESSIVE or LEFT that tried to  KEEP segregation... which is really just telling on yourself here. 

 

You moved off that quickly as you probably looked for a video and couldn't find one to support your backwards and reductive thought process. 

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[El Luchador]

1 hour ago, scourge165 said:

Hey, listen kid, I've cited NUMEROUS experts here.

 

You're wrong, I've proven you were wrong in EVERY possible way one can prove you were wrong and you just keep saying, 'nuh-uh,' and now you're having OTHERS argue your point for you. 

 

Again, ETHNOCENTRIC NATIONALISTS who take Public Industry and Privatize it and give it BACK to industrialists... and have MOST of their Military built buy PRIVATE industry...are not socialists... you moron. 

If you're too stupid to grasp this by now, you're just not going to get it and you'll search the corners of the internet for whoever will support you. 

I cited facts, you cited people.  That Jr is why you are indoctrinated.  Did you watch h the video? You can message the PHd and tell him how stupid he is.  

[scourge165]

13 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

Name 3 legitimate ones who have. Go ahead. 

LOL... they'd first point out the INSANELY flawed argument with comparing the "Left and Right" in the United Sates with 20th Century Authoritarian regimes being "right or left," in Europe...

 

10 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

I cited facts, you cited people.  That Jr is why you are indoctrinated.  Did you watch h the video? You can message the PHd and tell him how stupid he is.  

LMFAO!!!! That's LITERALLY the EXACT opposite of what you've done!

I mean, how you can follow that post up with "Did you watch h the video? You can message the PHd and tell him how stupid he is." 

You're ONLY using an appeal to authority...ironically talking about a "PHd" while you talk about how indoctrinated College professors are...which is just too much hypocrisy for me!

 

So right THERE, you're not referencing FACTS, you're referencing a person. A person who starts out his video with, 'it's so unfair how the right call us Nazi's, can you tell me how that's wrong,' and then he says, 'yeah, they're mean like that in Germany!'

 

1. You could NOT articulate what conservative and progressive meant when talking about segregation.
2. You cited as your ONLY reason for...several posts the NAME of the Nazi party, so...I'll assume you believe the Chinese and North Koreans are Republicans?
3. You randomly yelled "HITLER WASN'T A GLOBALIST!" When trying to make a coherent argument as to why a Socialist would arrest...socialists and return State owned property to private industry.

You also came up with this...REAL Gem! 

On 6/5/2025 at 9:12 PM, El Luchador said:

all the political strategies of the left today are taken from the 1930 Nazi play book. 

 

This... really says it all. 

But hey, we learned that the Chinese and North Koreans are on the right! 

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

LOL... they'd first point out the INSANELY flawed argument with comparing the "Left and Right" in the United Sates with 20th Century Authoritarian regimes being "right or left," in Europe...

 

LMFAO!!!! That's LITERALLY the EXACT opposite of what you've done!

I mean, how you can follow that post up with "Did you watch h the video? You can message the PHd and tell him how stupid he is." 

You're ONLY using an appeal to authority...ironically talking about a "PHd" while you talk about how indoctrinated College professors are...which is just too much hypocrisy for me!

 

So right THERE, you're not referencing FACTS, you're referencing a person. A person who starts out his video with, 'it's so unfair how the right call us Nazi's, can you tell me how that's wrong,' and then he says, 'yeah, they're mean like that in Germany!'

 

1. You could NOT articulate what conservative and progressive meant when talking about segregation.
2. You cited as your ONLY reason for...several posts the NAME of the Nazi party, so...I'll assume you believe the Chinese and North Koreans are Republicans?
3. You randomly yelled "HITLER WASN'T A GLOBALIST!" When trying to make a coherent argument as to why a Socialist would arrest...socialists and return State owned property to private industry.

You also came up with this...REAL Gem! 

 

This... really says it all. 

But hey, we learned that the Chinese and North Koreans are on the right! 

Not saying you are right or wrong.  I won’t play that argument. 
 

is 97% of what your respond with from chatGPT?