Alvarez can’t have another year…can he ?

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39 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Alvarez wrestled the Reno TOC unattached and didn't transfer to OK State until January.  He wrestled four matches in January as an attached wrestler.  Maybe using that criteria he could have another year?

He competed during the 2nd half of the year. That rules out a hardship waiver. 

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1 hour ago, cowcards said:

He competed during the 2nd half of the year. That rules out a hardship waiver. 

Well not too long ago junior college years counted against eligibility too

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52 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Well not too long ago junior college years counted against eligibility too

And that's a completely separate eligibility issue. Oklahoma State is D1. JCs are not. 

JUCO still needs a final ruling. All they have now is a pause on enforcement of that rule for a year. That could be ruled against and still count. Or none of it could count. Who knows. 

No one has a court case, to my knowledge, that would address his situation. Maybe they are planning to. But for now he doesn't fit the criteria mentioned as the reason for another year. 

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14 minutes ago, cowcards said:

And that's a completely separate eligibility issue. Oklahoma State is D1. JCs are not. 

JUCO still needs a final ruling. All they have now is a pause on enforcement of that rule for a year. That could be ruled against and still count. Or none of it could count. Who knows. 

No one has a court case, to my knowledge, that would address his situation. Maybe they are planning to. But for now he doesn't fit the criteria mentioned as the reason for another year. 

Andrew Sparks apparently got approved for a medical despite wrestling in January at the Southern Scuffle.  I know there is debate about if that was still first semester, but Alvarez’s last match in 2022-2023 was 1/6 so he could probably make the same argument, as I believe classes don’t start at most schools until mid-January

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19 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Andrew Sparks apparently got approved for a medical despite wrestling in January at the Southern Scuffle.  I know there is debate about if that was still first semester, but Alvarez’s last match in 2022-2023 was 1/6 so he could probably make the same argument, as I believe classes don’t start at most schools until mid-January

2024 he wrestled after the midpoint of the year. 2023 he wrestled more than the allotted dates. 

For Sparks, he didn't wrestle past the midpoint of the season with the MN schedule.

Calendar dates have nothing to do with the hardship waiver. The link WKN provided only talks about competition dates. Wrestling operates off of a 17 competition date schedule. Over 6 competitions is considered too many and after the 9th competition (10+) is considered the midpoint in the season. 

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On 5/8/2025 at 3:15 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

They define both terms in an addendum. They do it that way because the numbers change by sport.

For wrestling the midway point is defined as the 10th official date of competition for the team. In Alvarez's case, in both 2023 and 2024 it looks like his last match was the team's 11th official date. So he wrestled in the second half, making him ineligible for a hardship waiver.

For wrestling 30% is defined as 6 (the denominator is 17 and 30% of the denominator is rounded up to 6). In 2023 Alvarez competed in 9 official dates. In 2024 he competed in 5 official dates.

Reasonable time is relative to after all other eligibility is exhausted, not to when the injury occurred.

Do Tri’s count as one date? If not, it looks like his last match in 2022-2023 (Bloomsburg) was only the team’s 8th date, and he competed in 7 of them. Still doesn’t meet the stated requirements, but close…

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20 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Do Tri’s count as one date? If not, it looks like his last match in 2022-2023 (Bloomsburg) was only the team’s 8th date, and he competed in 7 of them. Still doesn’t meet the stated requirements, but close…

A full competition counts as a date. So Southern Scuffle is a single date. National Duals is a single date. It's hard for me to see 2023 as even in consideration since he wrestled in the 2nd half and more than the allotted dates. You've got a better argument for 2024. 

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10 minutes ago, cowcards said:

A full competition counts as a date. So Southern Scuffle is a single date. National Duals is a single date. It's hard for me to see 2023 as even in consideration since he wrestled in the 2nd half and more than the allotted dates. You've got a better argument for 2024. 

They had two matches on 11/12 for the “Liberty HS Showcase,” and 2 matches on 12/4 for the “Garden State Grapple.”  So seems like he did not wrestle in the second half.

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58 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

They had two matches on 11/12 for the “Liberty HS Showcase,” and 2 matches on 12/4 for the “Garden State Grapple.”  So seems like he did not wrestle in the second half.

Who are you referring to? Alvarez never wrestled for Bloomsburg and I don't see those 2 matches on his Wrestlestat profile. 

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6 hours ago, cowcards said:

Who are you referring to? Alvarez never wrestled for Bloomsburg and I don't see those 2 matches on his Wrestlestat profile. 

Alvarez in 2022-2023.  His last match that year was against Bloomsburg on 1/6, and yes he wrestled two matches each on 11/12 and 12/4.