What will they have to bitch about ???

[JimmySpeaks]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-reportedly-considers-raising-taxes-180041119.html

[Boring]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:07 AM, JimmySpeaks said:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-reportedly-considers-raising-taxes-180041119.html

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LOL, so the imbecile can't even keep his own incoherent thoughts in line. He originally claimed he was going to get rid of the income tax and replace all the lost revenue with tariffs. Now the moron has collapsed the market and the economy and is saying "duh, I guess I won't make anything off tariffs. Time to gouge the working class". 

The Trumpanzees just keep accepting every change in course by the conman like proper, low IQ cultists. 

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:40 AM, Boring said:

LOL, so the imbecile can't even keep his own incoherent thoughts in line. He originally claimed he was going to get rid of the income tax and replace all the lost revenue with tariffs. Now the moron has collapsed the market and the economy and is saying "duh, I guess I won't make anything off tariffs. Time to gouge the working class". 

The Trumpanzees just keep accepting every change in course by the conman like proper, low IQ cultists. 

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There it is.   Doing what Dems want is now bad. Bahahahahahahahhaha

[JimmySpeaks]

You imbeciles are playing right into his hands.  He’s ten steps ahead and you clowns take the bait EVERY SINGLE TIME 

[Boring]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:41 AM, JimmySpeaks said:

There it is.   Doing what Dems want is now bad. Bahahahahahahahhaha

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Hey idiot, the Democrats wanted to TAX THE RICH. You just aren't smart enough to understand details, are you?

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:43 AM, Boring said:

Hey idiot, the Democrats wanted to TAX THE RICH. You just aren't smart enough to understand details, are you?

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Yet you’e mad now when Trump might do it???????  Huh???  

[JimmySpeaks]

Just wait until Trump takes the DOGE savings and gives a portion of it back to each American RIGHT BEFORE MIDTERMS.  I’m guessing a $5000 check to each family will go along way 

[1032004]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:49 AM, JimmySpeaks said:

I’m guessing a $5000 check to each family will go along way 

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…In buying votes?

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:52 AM, 1032004 said:

…In buying votes?

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Why not?  Dems have played the everything is FREE card, knowing nothing is free but the sheeples will buy into it anyways for years.  It’s also why they opened the border at the same time.  

[Caveira]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:43 AM, Boring said:

Hey idiot, the Democrats wanted to TAX THE RICH. You just aren't smart enough to understand details, are you?

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The rich already pay most of the taxes.   How much is “enough” ?

• Top 1% of earners: Paid 40.4% of all federal income taxes. Tax Foundation+5National Taxpayers Union+5National Taxpayers Union+5

• Top 5% of earners: Paid approximately 66% of all federal income taxes. WIRED+8City-County Observer+8Federal Budget in Pictures+8

• Top 10% of earners: Paid about 76% of all federal income taxes. 

• Top 25% of earners: Paid 87.2% of all federal income taxes.

[1032004]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:55 AM, JimmySpeaks said:

Why not?  Dems have played the everything is FREE card, knowing nothing is free but the sheeples will buy into it anyways for years.  It’s also why they opened the border at the same time.  

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Well so much for “too big to rig,” I guess

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:56 AM, 1032004 said:

Well so much for “too big to rig,” I guess

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IKR? Nothing is free but dems keep saying it is. 

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:56 AM, Caveira said:

The rich already pay most of the taxes.   How much is “enough” ?

 

• Top 1% of earners: Paid 40.4% of all federal income taxes. Tax Foundation+5National Taxpayers Union+5National Taxpayers Union+5

• Top 5% of earners: Paid approximately 66% of all federal income taxes. WIRED+8City-County Observer+8Federal Budget in Pictures+8

• Top 10% of earners: Paid about 76% of all federal income taxes. 

• Top 25% of earners: Paid 87.2% of all federal income taxes.

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Stop with the facts.  You’ll just confuse him. 

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:56 AM, Caveira said:

The rich already pay most of the taxes.   How much is “enough” ?

 

• Top 1% of earners: Paid 40.4% of all federal income taxes. Tax Foundation+5National Taxpayers Union+5National Taxpayers Union+5

• Top 5% of earners: Paid approximately 66% of all federal income taxes. WIRED+8City-County Observer+8Federal Budget in Pictures+8

• Top 10% of earners: Paid about 76% of all federal income taxes. 

• Top 25% of earners: Paid 87.2% of all federal income taxes.

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Not to mention 45% of all eligible tax payers PAY ZERO FEDERAL INCOME TAX.  

[Tripnsweep]

It's like a guy who has declared bankruptcy 6 times isn't the most financially savvy person? Who knew? 

[Tripnsweep]

In the early 90s, Trump found himself the owner of a personal debt of $900 million. That's not the companies he owns. At the time, his companies were in $3.5 billion of corporate debt. No, he himself owed almost a billion dollars personally after somehow convincing the world he was worth more than NASA's 30-year Voyager missions to Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune and Uranus.

You could offer to buy everyone in the United States a drink and not owe as much money as he did. He could have personally cancelled out the Seychelles' economy by moving there.

While sane men with jobs can't borrow a few grand, a man who's filed more 11's than a fantasy soccer manager was allowed to spend the lifetime income of over five hundred of them before anyone noticed he didn't actually have it. The corporate debts equal the entire education budget of two states, meaning society would actually have seen the exact same fiscal return if they'd invested the money in educating millions of children. And people still lend him money today. Enjoy that thought as you chew dry macaroni to pay off your student loans.

[scourge165]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:07 AM, JimmySpeaks said:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-reportedly-considers-raising-taxes-180041119.html

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Yeah, I posted about this several times in the last couple days Jimmy. 

I think what people would have to bitch about would be...the trade war that we've started. 

 

I'm perfectly fine with raising taxes. Going BACK to where taxes were under Obama for the money you make OVER 1 million dollars? Great. We need to do something about the deficit and then hopefully find a surplus. 

Decimating global trade...that's not a good starting point. 

[scourge165]

  On 4/6/2025 at 3:31 AM, Tripnsweep said:

In the early 90s, Trump found himself the owner of a personal debt of $900 million. That's not the companies he owns. At the time, his companies were in $3.5 billion of corporate debt. No, he himself owed almost a billion dollars personally after somehow convincing the world he was worth more than NASA's 30-year Voyager missions to Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune and Uranus.

You could offer to buy everyone in the United States a drink and not owe as much money as he did. He could have personally cancelled out the Seychelles' economy by moving there.

While sane men with jobs can't borrow a few grand, a man who's filed more 11's than a fantasy soccer manager was allowed to spend the lifetime income of over five hundred of them before anyone noticed he didn't actually have it. The corporate debts equal the entire education budget of two states, meaning society would actually have seen the exact same fiscal return if they'd invested the money in educating millions of children. And people still lend him money today. Enjoy that thought as you chew dry macaroni to pay off your student loans.

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It's kinda funny how people forget how Trump became an afterthought in the 90s. After he bankrupted casinos and he was toxic to touch. 

 

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 3:50 AM, scourge165 said:

Yeah, I posted about this several times in the last couple days Jimmy. 

I think what people would have to bitch about would be...the trade war that we've started. 

 

I'm perfectly fine with raising taxes. Going BACK to where taxes were under Obama for the money you make OVER 1 million dollars? Great. We need to do something about the deficit and then hopefully find a surplus. 

Decimating global trade...that's not a good starting point. 

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Stopping spending and finding fraud is 

Edited April 6 by JimmySpeaks

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 3:50 AM, scourge165 said:

Yeah, I posted about this several times in the last couple days Jimmy. 

I think what people would have to bitch about would be...the trade war that we've started. 

 

I'm perfectly fine with raising taxes. Going BACK to where taxes were under Obama for the money you make OVER 1 million dollars? Great. We need to do something about the deficit and then hopefully find a surplus. 

Decimating global trade...that's not a good starting point. 

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Scourge, As I’ve stated and you’ve ignored many times.  Trump has the things he believes a country needs to be self sufficient.  He will get there.  Blanket tariffs will become targeted tariffs.  It’s called leverage.  Playing from a position of power to make it happen is a wonderful starting point.  

Edited April 6 by JimmySpeaks

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 3:56 AM, JimmySpeaks said:

Stopping spending and finding fraud is 

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Aren’t trumps proposed taxes on the people making more than a million higher than Obama’s ? 

Edited April 6 by JimmySpeaks

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 2:40 AM, Boring said:

LOL, so the imbecile can't even keep his own incoherent thoughts in line. He originally claimed he was going to get rid of the income tax and replace all the lost revenue with tariffs. Now the moron has collapsed the market and the economy and is saying "duh, I guess I won't make anything off tariffs. Time to gouge the working class". 

The Trumpanzees just keep accepting every change in course by the conman like proper, low IQ cultists. 

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LOL, if the market didn’t collapse under Biden it never will. He’s making money off fraud and waste, the tariffs and now it looks like he will tax the rich. ALL WHILE trying to eliminate taxes on social security, tips and OT.  Sounds like what Dems want. 

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 3:27 AM, Tripnsweep said:

It's like a guy who has declared bankruptcy 6 times isn't the most financially savvy person? Who knew? 

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But a senile guy that was tossed away by HIS OWN PARTY FOR INCOMPETENCE was. Who knew? 

[scourge165]

  On 4/6/2025 at 3:56 AM, JimmySpeaks said:

Stopping spending and finding fraud is 

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Stop spending? That's not policy that's a vague and meaningless talking point.

Social Security(which means...you probably also stop taxing), Medicare and the Military?

 

Here's the reality though...and it's not complicated.

The larger your tax base is, the easier it is to get out of debt. 

When your GDP GROWS...even without raising taxes, you've got MORE money coming in to service the debt.
When your GDP CONTRACTS, the debt will grow.

 

Margin taxes rates above 1M dollars increasing will help. They were over 90% in the 50s under Eisenhower when we were paying off debt accumulated from WWII and the Great Depression.

We could slash defense spending? 

We have an outline of how to get out of this debt whilst still prospering. That's not going to happen again(the extremely high tax rates). 

We also have an outline of how to make things exponentially worse(that IS happening). 

[JimmySpeaks]

  On 4/6/2025 at 4:29 AM, scourge165 said:

Stop spending? That's not policy that's a vague and meaningless talking point.

Social Security(which means...you probably also stop taxing), Medicare and the Military?

 

Here's the reality though...and it's not complicated.

The larger your tax base is, the easier it is to get out of debt. 

When your GDP GROWS...even without raising taxes, you've got MORE money coming in to service the debt.
When your GDP CONTRACTS, the debt will grow.

 

Margin taxes rates above 1M dollars increasing will help. They were over 90% in the 50s under Eisenhower when we were paying off debt accumulated from WWII and the Great Depression.

We could slash defense spending? 

We have an outline of how to get out of this debt whilst still prospering. That's not going to happen again(the extremely high tax rates). 

We also have an outline of how to make things exponentially worse(that IS happening). 

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Again 45% of eligible tax payers pay ZERO FEDERAL INCOME TAX.  tell me why a flat tax won’t work 

Edited April 6 by JimmySpeaks