When does Zeke leave ASU?

[WrestlingRash]

Zeke got his team poached by Iowa and they did a LOT worse at Iowa than when he was coaching him. I think Zeke is a weird little bitter ego maniac, but he can coach. If he has 3 more bad years in a row, then this conversation will have legs. They were top 10 in 2023 and 2024 at NCAAs. 

[CHROMEBIRD]

18 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

If what I am hearing is accurate, and this is from multiple people who are in different circles, if they bought him out it wouldn't come from ASU. Zeke isn't under the same scrutiny as Hurley is. UofA doesn't have wrestling, so there's not a lot of pressure to do much other than have an AA or more per year, and nobody gets arrested off the mat. It's really a sweet gig Zeke has, and him not wanting to leave is a sign of how good he has it. 

Does that mean a booster or group of boosters could pick up the tab on buying Zeke & his staff out and hiring a new coach? I agree that Zeke has it pretty good at ASU. When Figs won Nationals last year, and Zahid not too long before that, those were NCAA titles that the department could hang their hat on. I'm not sure how or why anyone at ASU would have high expectations for ASU wrestling. They should keep Zeke around, I think just a change in assistant coaches could turn things around.

[CHROMEBIRD]

33 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

Zeke got his team poached by Iowa and they did a LOT worse at Iowa than when he was coaching him. I think Zeke is a weird little bitter ego maniac, but he can coach. If he has 3 more bad years in a row, then this conversation will have legs. They were top 10 in 2023 and 2024 at NCAAs. 

The conversation will have legs among wrestling fans, but does anyone who matters to ASU athletics care either way? Volleyball gets more attention in Tempe than wrestling, and swimming/diving has gotten traction since their men's and women's teams both won the Big 12. Robles could probably draw more attention and funding to ASU wrestling, with the momentum he has from his book and movie, but it looks like he's more focused on his self-motivation stuff and maybe wrestling in general rather than his alma mater. Not saying that's a bad thign.

[Tripnsweep]

1 hour ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

The conversation will have legs among wrestling fans, but does anyone who matters to ASU athletics care either way? Volleyball gets more attention in Tempe than wrestling, and swimming/diving has gotten traction since their men's and women's teams both won the Big 12. Robles could probably draw more attention and funding to ASU wrestling, with the momentum he has from his book and movie, but it looks like he's more focused on his self-motivation stuff and maybe wrestling in general rather than his alma mater. Not saying that's a bad thign.

The only reason it matters to the administration at ASU is because they had a major donor leave and apparently several others who Zeke turned off have stopped writing checks. Again this is all second or third hand information. The consistent story is that some felt Zeke had run his course and wanted to shift him into something else, and go after a big name like Taylor. Zeke didn't want that and since the university has no reason to get rid of him, the people who write the checks couldn't actually force him out. So now we see what happened with Parco and Teemer leaving, now Figs, and Schultz almost leaving. 

[CHROMEBIRD]

10 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

The only reason it matters to the administration at ASU is because they had a major donor leave and apparently several others who Zeke turned off have stopped writing checks. Again this is all second or third hand information. The consistent story is that some felt Zeke had run his course and wanted to shift him into something else, and go after a big name like Taylor. Zeke didn't want that and since the university has no reason to get rid of him, the people who write the checks couldn't actually force him out. So now we see what happened with Parco and Teemer leaving, now Figs, and Schultz almost leaving. 

That's too bad. I could see Zeke enjoying coaching without all the wild west NIL stuff if he focused fully on Atreus. It would be a fun project for him too, building something more or less from the ground up. I'm still skeptical that ASU would bring in a prestige head coach to replace him on the college side, though. It would be such a great opportunity out west for any talented prospect, but I don't believe the program has the appetite for it.

[Spencerlee]

2 hours ago, WrestlingRash said:

Zeke got his team poached by Iowa and they did a LOT worse at Iowa than when he was coaching him. I think Zeke is a weird little bitter ego maniac, but he can coach. If he has 3 more bad years in a row, then this conversation will have legs. They were top 10 in 2023 and 2024 at NCAAs. 

Kyle Parco was having the best season of his career until a ref refused to call potentially dangerous at NCAAs. Not Iowas fault in the slightest.

[Idaho]

43 minutes ago, Spencerlee said:

Kyle Parco was having the best season of his career until a ref refused to call potentially dangerous at NCAAs. Not Iowas fault in the slightest.

Not potentially dangerous:

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/13961288-r16-149-lb-ethan-stiles-oregon-state-vs-kyle-parco-iowa

[Spencerlee]

2 minutes ago, Idaho said:

Not potentially dangerous:

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/13961288-r16-149-lb-ethan-stiles-oregon-state-vs-kyle-parco-iowa

Sure thing bud

[Idaho]

39 minutes ago, Spencerlee said:

Sure thing bud

Nope - He's in on a shot - nothing was potentially dangerous there. It happens. 

[AgaveMaria]

Maybe recruiting is hurt because of the movie telling younger kids the program was cut and then brought back? They are afraid it will be cut again, for good.(I KNOW the movie was way wrong in this)