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It’s official.  Iran won the GR team championship

if iran wins the two finals tomorrow, this will be one od the most dominant wins in recent histoy.

Posted
7 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

I don't see why he is trying to transfer. He is young and probably better than the guy they sent this year. If I am correct he did not take part in their trials due to an injury. I'm guessing he would be the favourite to win the spot for Russia at 65 next year. 

Maybe he just hates having to make a team or has a beef with the Russian federation because they made him miss the Olympics? 

Mamedov was clearly angry with the Russians for not letting him compete in Paris. 

I assume that he made a deal with Russians - he was missing the Olympics due to political pressure and in return they were signing the letter of attestation (so letting him leave Russian Federation). 

All the injury talk is distraction. He did not take part because he was moving countries. He hasn't represented Russia after Seprember 2023 - 2 full years.

Last year, or maybe earlier, he started the process for changing federations to Bulgaria, which paid at least 260,000 USD, and most probably much more informally, to Russia. Then at some point leadership in Bulgarian federation changed and they don't want the transfers to represent Bulgarians - only locals.

We are in this moment - now if you have a solution please present one.

Posted
1 hour ago, shiraz321 said:

He should come to Iran and have a domestic rivalry with Amouzad 

I think the current Amouzad is p4p best freestyle wrestler in the world.  Shamil can push him no doubt and its good to fight for your position because it make you train harder .

Posted
1 hour ago, Irani said:

It’s official.  Iran won the GR team championship

if iran wins the two finals tomorrow, this will be one od the most dominant wins in recent histoy.

GR was ripe for the taking. Russia was a paper tiger, coasting on the legacy and fumes of the soviet era in the 90s through 2010s.  

A country who put together a critical mass of participation and concentrated training from a young age could topple them. And it looks like Iran did. Congrats. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, GrandOlm said:

GR was ripe for the taking. Russia was a paper tiger, coasting on the legacy and fumes of the soviet era in the 90s through 2010s.  

A country who put together a critical mass of participation and concentrated training from a young age could topple them. And it looks like Iran did. Congrats. 

I completely agree with what you said. Aside from Russia there isn't really any other country with both the resources, interest and population size to compete with Iran across a 10 weight world championships. Olympics definitely but not worlds. It would be nice if the US could develop some high quality greco guys to make the competition more competitive. Raney looks really promising and I think he could fill out to be a solid 60kg or 67kg guy in the future with the right coaching. Maybe he could come to Iran and we send some of our light weights to the US to train FS. 

Posted
10 hours ago, Irani said:

Bahrain?

You can only change your competing nationality once.. so if Russia-Bulgaria transfer is complete (and I assume it can't be rolled back if the money is paid, documents exchanged etc), then Mamedov is stuck with Bulgarian wrestling nationality forever.

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I think Mamedov stays in Russia tbh. They don't really have anyone else at 65 that can compete internationally. It seems overall Russia's new generation is much weaker than their previous which doesn't seem that surprising given who headlined that era (Sadulaev, Sidakov, Gatsalov etc). Even their transfers are around the same age as their main team guys. I wonder if the MMA hype has shifted their best grappling talent over there and the rest of the guys competing are their next best alternatives. Apart from Tazhudinov, Kadiev and Ozdamirov they don't have anyone that is super super impressive coming through. 

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2 hours ago, Danny_92 said:

Any news on Who's Iran sending for the next under 23 worlds next month ?

This is what I heard:

57 kg Milad Valizadeh
61 kg Reza Momeni
65 kg Yasin Rezaei
70 kg Sina Khalili
74 kg Mohammad Shakeri
79 kg Mehdi Yousefi
86 kg Abolfazl Rahmani
92 kg Mohammad Mobin Azimi
97 kg Abolfazl Babaloo
125 kg Mohammadreza Lotfi

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Shibboleth said:

This is what I heard:

57 kg Milad Valizadeh
61 kg Reza Momeni
65 kg Yasin Rezaei
70 kg Sina Khalili
74 kg Mohammad Shakeri
79 kg Mehdi Yousefi
86 kg Abolfazl Rahmani
92 kg Mohammad Mobin Azimi
97 kg Abolfazl Babaloo
125 kg Mohammadreza Lotfi

 

Thanks . I only know Rahmani and sina khalili among this list. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Shibboleth said:

This is what I heard:

57 kg Milad Valizadeh
61 kg Reza Momeni
65 kg Yasin Rezaei
70 kg Sina Khalili
74 kg Mohammad Shakeri
79 kg Mehdi Yousefi
86 kg Abolfazl Rahmani
92 kg Mohammad Mobin Azimi
97 kg Abolfazl Babaloo
125 kg Mohammadreza Lotfi

 

Not a bad list tbh I could see maybe 3-4 golds and 7 medals total from this team. Sina Khalili, Mehdi Yousefi, Abolfazal Rahmani and Mobin Azimi are very good wrestlers. I wonder what our Greco team is going to look like. I think Farokhi will be our 82kg rep apparently.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Lucho said:

Not a bad list tbh I could see maybe 3-4 golds and 7 medals total from this team. Sina Khalili, Mehdi Yousefi, Abolfazal Rahmani and Mobin Azimi are very good wrestlers. I wonder what our Greco team is going to look like. I think Farokhi will be our 82kg rep apparently.


lol no, looking at other teams,  I see 0 golds in this team, maybe Rahmani but that's it. Yousefi also a longhsot, if Haines is out, but if Haines is in shape, IDK. Others are no gold threats.
 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Shibboleth said:


lol no, looking at other teams,  I see 0 golds in this team, maybe Rahmani but that's it. Yousefi also a longhsot, if Haines is out, but if Haines is in shape, IDK. Others are no gold threats.
 

Who are the US and Russia sending. I feel like you are underestimating some of the guys. Azimi is a U20 world champ at this weight class and Yousefi is the reigning u23 and u20 champ. 

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29 minutes ago, Lucho said:

Not a bad list tbh I could see maybe 3-4 golds and 7 medals total from this team. Sina Khalili, Mehdi Yousefi, Abolfazal Rahmani and Mobin Azimi are very good wrestlers. I wonder what our Greco team is going to look like. I think Farokhi will be our 82kg rep apparently.

Mehdi yousefi won the junior world in August . He's a medal contender definitely .

Rahmani is good. The rest idk.

 

About Greco, Farokhisenjani just won the senior worlds i don't think he'll wrestke next month .

Posted
6 minutes ago, Lucho said:

Who are the US and Russia sending. I feel like you are underestimating some of the guys. Azimi is a U20 world champ at this weight class and Yousefi is the reigning u23 and u20 champ. 

Here's the list

 

USA Russia (likely) Iran Japan Other
Luke Lilledahl Ayanday Ondar Milad Valizadeh Yuta Kikuchi Zangaladze, Indian
Jax Forrest Fedor Baltuev Reza Momeni Akito Mukaida Nuraddin Novruzov, Udit
Marcus Blaze Bashir Magomedov Yasin Rezaei Yuta Nishiuchi Sujeet Kalkal, Jalolov
PJ Duke Umar Umarov Sina Khalili Kaito Morita Kanan Heybatov
Mitchell Mesenbrink Magomed Baitukaev Mohammad Shakeri Yoshinosuke Aoyagi M-Bashir Khaniev (AZE)
Levi Haines Davud Daudov Mehdi Yousefi Subaru Takahara  Khidir Saipudinov (BRN), Lu Feng
Rocco Welsh Arsen Balayan / Ibragim Kadiev Abolfazl Rahmani Fumiya Igarashi Rakhim Magamadov (FRA)
Josh Barr Mukhamed-Takhir Khaniev Mohammadmobin Azimi Taisho Masuda Andro Margishvili (GEO), Kurugliev
GK Kouekabakilaho Soslan Djagaev Abolfazl Babaloo Arash Yoshida Rizabek Aitmukhan (KAZ)
Daniel Herrera Davudgadzhiev // A.Kurbanov Mohammadreza Lotfi Ryusei Fujita Hakan Büyükçıngıl (TUR)


 

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My picks are below. As for Yousefi, I don't see him beating Haines. Ohers maybe. Rrahmani too, if he can't beat McEnelly, can he beat Welsh and others? HWT I have no idea, it's a weak field, maybe Lotfi has a shot here too
 

57 kg Luke Lilledahl
61 kg Jax Forrest
65 kg Sujeet
70 kg PJ Duke
74 kg Aoyagi
79 kg Levi Haines (if he's wrestling. If not, Yousefi)
86 kg Rahmani
92 kg Khaniev
97 kg Yoshida
125 kg ???? No idea
Posted
1 hour ago, Shibboleth said:

Here's the list

 

USA Russia (likely) Iran Japan Other
Luke Lilledahl Ayanday Ondar Milad Valizadeh Yuta Kikuchi Zangaladze, Indian
Jax Forrest Fedor Baltuev Reza Momeni Akito Mukaida Nuraddin Novruzov, Udit
Marcus Blaze Bashir Magomedov Yasin Rezaei Yuta Nishiuchi Sujeet Kalkal, Jalolov
PJ Duke Umar Umarov Sina Khalili Kaito Morita Kanan Heybatov
Mitchell Mesenbrink Magomed Baitukaev Mohammad Shakeri Yoshinosuke Aoyagi M-Bashir Khaniev (AZE)
Levi Haines Davud Daudov Mehdi Yousefi Subaru Takahara  Khidir Saipudinov (BRN), Lu Feng
Rocco Welsh Arsen Balayan / Ibragim Kadiev Abolfazl Rahmani Fumiya Igarashi Rakhim Magamadov (FRA)
Josh Barr Mukhamed-Takhir Khaniev Mohammadmobin Azimi Taisho Masuda Andro Margishvili (GEO), Kurugliev
GK Kouekabakilaho Soslan Djagaev Abolfazl Babaloo Arash Yoshida Rizabek Aitmukhan (KAZ)
Daniel Herrera Davudgadzhiev // A.Kurbanov Mohammadreza Lotfi Ryusei Fujita Hakan Büyükçıngıl (TUR)


 

Where did you get the Japan team from

Posted
1 hour ago, Danny_92 said:

Mehdi yousefi won the junior world in August . He's a medal contender definitely .

Rahmani is good. The rest idk.

 

About Greco, Farokhisenjani just won the senior worlds i don't think he'll wrestke next month .

According to an interview they just had he said he will be competing at u23 worlds for some reason. Not too sure why I would rather some other guy go and wrestle.

Posted
1 hour ago, Shibboleth said:

My picks are below. As for Yousefi, I don't see him beating Haines. Ohers maybe. Rrahmani too, if he can't beat McEnelly, can he beat Welsh and others? HWT I have no idea, it's a weak field, maybe Lotfi has a shot here too
 

57 kg Luke Lilledahl
61 kg Jax Forrest
65 kg Sujeet
70 kg PJ Duke
74 kg Aoyagi
79 kg Levi Haines (if he's wrestling. If not, Yousefi)
86 kg Rahmani
92 kg Khaniev
97 kg Yoshida
125 kg ???? No idea

We will see I think there will be a couple surprises as usual with these sorts of things. But I more or less agree with what you have put if those are the guys competing. Probably have Azimi winning 92 over khaniev tbh.

Posted
2 hours ago, Shibboleth said:

My picks are below. As for Yousefi, I don't see him beating Haines. Ohers maybe. Rrahmani too, if he can't beat McEnelly, can he beat Welsh and others? HWT I have no idea, it's a weak field, maybe Lotfi has a shot here too
 

57 kg Luke Lilledahl
61 kg Jax Forrest
65 kg Sujeet
70 kg PJ Duke
74 kg Aoyagi
79 kg Levi Haines (if he's wrestling. If not, Yousefi)
86 kg Rahmani
92 kg Khaniev
97 kg Yoshida
125 kg ???? No idea

57 KG - I think Lilledahl is an immediate Gold contender, dare I say favorite

61 KG - Jax wrestled out of his mind at Seniors.  He is a contender, but he could drop a match that we don't expect.  He's funky and gets himself in to poor spots sometimes (folks forget he was down by 9 to Gross before he teched him at US senior nationals).

65 KG - Blaze will be undersized, but I fully expect him to beat Sujeet if they meet.  It is a style contrast and I think it's going to take a powerful 65 KG guy that wrestles defensively to beat Blaze.  Sujeet isn't that guy.

70 KG - Duke should be considered a Gold contender, possibly the favorite.

74 KG - Messenbrink - see above with Duke/Lilledahl.  All three of these guys are Seniors medal contenders.

79 KG - Haines wrestled out of his mind at Senior worlds.  If he wrestles that way, he is the favorite for Gold.  If he wrestles like he did earlier this season at the ranking series, he is looking at wrestling for Bronze.

86 KG - Welsh and McEnelly are two wrestlers with very similar styles, although McEnelly is more proven as of right now.  I think Rahmani should be favored against Welsh.

92 KG - Barr was the only wrestler to match Hidlay's physicality with him since Hidlay committed to going 92 KG late in the spring.  I am hoping for a good performance, but wouldn't be surprised to see him wrestling for Bronze after dropping a match on the front side.

97 KG - I don't expect a medal here, however draws are very dependent.

125 KG - Same as 97 KG, I don't expect a lot, but would love being proven wrong.

This is probably the best U23 squad that the US has sent, maybe ever, and that is with two 'holes' at 97/125.  I only call them holes, because of what the rest of the lineup looks like and fully believe that it is possible for medals from them.

 

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Posted
5 hours ago, Shibboleth said:

This is what I heard:

57 kg Milad Valizadeh
61 kg Reza Momeni
65 kg Yasin Rezaei
70 kg Sina Khalili
74 kg Mohammad Shakeri
79 kg Mehdi Yousefi
86 kg Abolfazl Rahmani
92 kg Mohammad Mobin Azimi
97 kg Abolfazl Babaloo
125 kg Mohammadreza Lotfi

 

Khalili and Yousefi should do very well, Do not think Yousefi can beat Levi but could get silver in the field. I think Khalili has a shot at PJ. Rahmani, I think has an easier path at u23's than u20's although I am not sure if Kadiev is going or not. 65/74 are just going to be really hard weights regardless of who you are they are comparable to senior worlds imo. Azimi vs Barr should be a very good match, and I do not know who I would favor. Kassimbek likely dominates if he is going but I think silver is pretty wide open at 125. Feels like a team that should get 6-7 medals to me could definitely push USA because we are going to have issues at 97 and 125.

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