bracketbuster Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Again, I am just a nobody wrestling fan so feel free to let me know where you think I went wrong or if I have the wrong starter or any general feedback ACC Interactive Brackets Interactive Brackets: use the interactive brackets using the following letters: D, M, T, F (decision, major, tech, fall). Seed changes: You can change those seeds on the 125R, 133R, 141R, etc. sheets and it will automatically update the team predictions based off of seeds with no bonus factored in. Incomplete data: I only have a wrestlers record vs. who I am projecting will be the starters at that same weight. The ACC duals are done so I figured I would get started but I will add in wrester's win-loss records, coaches ranking, RPI, and actual wrestlestat ranking (I have them all listed at #99 right now just to make the formulas work). My Best guesses at the seeds 125 lbs. #1 Jakob Camacho (NCST) (2-0 ACC STARTERS) #2 Cooper Flynn (VT) (4-1 ACC STARTERS) #3 Spencer Moore (UNC) (2-1 ACC STARTERS) #4 Kyle Montaperto (UVA) (1-2 ACC STARTERS) #5 Logan Agin (DUKE) (1-3 ACC STARTERS) #6 Colton Camacho (PITT) (0-3 ACC STARTERS) 133 lbs. #1 Kai Orine (NCST) (4-0 ACC STARTERS) #2 Marlon Yarbrough (UVA) (3-1 ACC STARTERS) #3 Sam Latona (VT) (3-2 ACC STARTERS) #4 Vince Santaniello (PITT) (1-3 ACC STARTERS) #5 Jace Palmer (UNC) (0-2 ACC STARTERS) #6 Raymond Adams (DUKE) (0-3 ACC STARTERS) 141 lbs. #1 Cole Matthews (PITT) (4-0 ACC STARTERS) #2 Ryan Jack (NCST) (4-1 ACC STARTERS) #3 Jack Gioffre (UVA) (1-1 ACC STARTERS) #4 Tom Crook (VT) (2-2 ACC STARTERS) #5 Lachlan McNeil (UNC) (0-4 ACC STARTERS) #6 Christian Coleman (DUKE) (0-3 ACC STARTERS) 149 lbs. #1 Caleb Henson (VT) (2-0 ACC STARTERS) #2 Jackson Arrington (NCST) (2-1 ACC STARTERS) #3 Jayden Scott (UNC) (3-1 ACC STARTERS) #4 Finn Solomon (PITT) (2-3 ACC STARTERS) #5 Michael Gioffre (UVA) (0-2 ACC STARTERS) #6 Jarred Papscy (DUKE) (0-2 ACC STARTERS) 157 lbs. #1 Sonny Santiago (UNC) (4-0 ACC STARTERS) #2 Ed Scott (NCST) (4-1 ACC STARTERS) #3 Bryce Andonian (VT) (0-1 ACC STARTERS) #4 Jared Keslar (PITT) (2-2 ACC STARTERS) #5 Nick Sanko (UVA) (1-3 ACC STARTERS) #6 Logan Ferrero (DUKE) (0-4 ACC STARTERS) 165 lbs. #1 Derek Fields (NCST) (4-1 ACC STARTERS) #2 Holden Heller (PITT) (4-1 ACC STARTERS) #3 Connor Brady (VT) (4-1 ACC STARTERS) #4 Nick Hamilton (UVA) (2-3 ACC STARTERS) #5 Isaias Estrada (UNC) (1-4 ACC STARTERS) #6 Gaetano Console (DUKE) (0-5 ACC STARTERS) 174 lbs. #1 Mekhi Lewis (VT) (4-0 ACC STARTERS) #2 Justin McCoy (UVA) (3-2 ACC STARTERS) #3 Tyler Eischens (UNC) (2-2 ACC STARTERS) #4 Alex Faison (NCST) (2-3 ACC STARTERS) #5 Luca Augustine (PITT) (1-2 ACC STARTERS) #6 David Hussey (DUKE) (0-3 ACC STARTERS) 184 lbs. #1 TJ Stewart (VT) (2-1 ACC STARTERS) #2 Reece Heller (PITT) (3-1 ACC STARTERS) #3 Dylan Fishback (NCST) (2-2 ACC STARTERS) #4 Gavin Kane (UNC) (2-1 ACC STARTERS) #5 Ethan Weatherspoon (UVA) (0-2 ACC STARTERS) #6 Conor Becker (DUKE) (0-2 ACC STARTERS) 197 lbs. #1 Trent Hidlay (NCST) (5-0 ACC STARTERS) #2 Andy Smith (VT) (4-1 ACC STARTERS) #3 Max Shaw (UNC) (3-2 ACC STARTERS) #4 Mac Stout (PITT) (2-2 ACC STARTERS) #5 Krystian Kinsey (UVA) (1-4 ACC STARTERS) #6 Kwasi Bonsu (DUKE) (0-6 ACC STARTERS) 285 lbs. #1 Owen Trephan (NCST) (1-0 ACC STARTERS) #2 Hunter Catka (VT) (3-0 ACC STARTERS) #3 Ryan Catka (UVA) (2-2 ACC STARTERS) #4 Connor Barket (DUKE) (0-2 ACC STARTERS) #5 Cade Lautt (UNC) (0-2 ACC STARTERS) #6 Dayton Pitzer (PITT) (0-0 ACC STARTERS) Team scores (based just on advancement and placement; no bonus) #1 North Carolina State (96) #2 Virginia Tech (83) #3 Pittsburgh (44) #4 North Carolina (37.5) #5 Virginia (36) #6 Duke (3.5) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Nice work. Kinda crazy that Lachlan McNeil finished 4th at NCAA’s last year and will be no better than the 4 seed in a 6 team ACC. Is their seeding just a “coaches meeting” similar to the B10? 3-5 at 141 seems like it could be up in the air. Crook definitely ahead of McNeil, but are you putting Gioffre ahead of Crook because Crook didn’t wrestle the dual? And interesting that neither Gioffre or McNeil wrestled in the UNC/UVA dual, so would think McNeil could have an argument over Gioffre if non-ACC matches/national rankings are a consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bracketbuster Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 33 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Is their seeding just a “coaches meeting” similar to the B10? 3-5 at 141 seems like it could be up in the air. Crook definitely ahead of McNeil, but are you putting Gioffre ahead of Crook because Crook didn’t wrestle the dual? And interesting that neither Gioffre or McNeil wrestled in the UNC/UVA dual, so would think McNeil could have an argument over Gioffre if non-ACC matches/national rankings are a consideration. I use head to head mostly. I would assume that is the primary seeding criteria but I don't know that for sure.There are definitely weights that are up in the air and 141 is one of them. I didn't know where to put Gioffre because neither he or McNeil wrestled in the UVA/UNC dual. Giofree didn't beat the starter but he also went out for the dual and won to his credit while Crook did not wrestle. A couple other weights that I will be interested to see how they do seeding. 157: I have no idea where you put Bryce Andonian. He is still listed as the starter according to wrestlestat but his only ACC result is a loss to Scott at CKLV. 165: The top three all split with each other so all three have an argument. Fields had the closest loss and then Heller beat Brady head-to-head was my logic but you can argue that in circles. 174: McCoy who I have at #2 beat my #3 Eischens and #4 Faison but lost to #5 Augustine. 184: There were a lot of matchups that didn't happen in the regular season and everybody has at least one loss in conference so that is another where there are definitely arguments for and against moving those guys. 285: The HWTs also had a lot of missed regular season matchups. I don't know what you do with Pitzer who if he returns for the postseason it would be his first conference tournament and he did not have any regular season ACC results due to injury. That being said, that makes him a dangerous #6 seed (or whever he ends up) if he is healthy for the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanMogen Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Jesus, Duke. What the hell? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bracketbuster Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 Not really many changes. Pitzer is in for Pittsburgh at the #4 seed is probably the most notable. ACC Interactive Brackets Interactive Brackets: use the interactive brackets using the following letters: D, M, T, F (decision, major, tech, fall). 125 lbs. (2 qualifiers) #1 Jakob Camacho (NCST) (13-4, 2-0 ACC): 16 CR, 9 WS #2 Cooper Flynn (VT) (13-3, 4-1 ACC): 6 CR, 2 RPI, 15 WS #3 Spencer Moore (UNC) (13-4, 2-1 ACC): 33 CR, 29 RPI, 33 WS #4 Kyle Montaperto (UVA) (9-8, 1-2 ACC): 53 WS #5 Logan Agin (DUKE) (9-14, 1-3 ACC): 52 WS #6 Colton Camacho (PITT) (9-10, 0-3 ACC): 38 WS 133 lbs. (3 qualifiers) #1 Kai Orine (NCST) (13-2, 4-0 ACC): 5 CR, 3 RPI, 5 WS #2 Marlon Yarbrough (UVA) (13-6, 3-1 ACC): 31 CR, 10 RPI, 20 WS #3 Sam Latona (VT) (18-6, 3-2 ACC): 13 CR, 8 RPI, 15 WS #4 Vince Santaniello (PITT) (14-13, 1-3 ACC): 24 CR, 21 RPI, 28 WS #5 Jace Palmer (UNC) (13-9, 0-2 ACC): 32 RPI, 49 WS #6 Raymond Adams (DUKE) (5-18, 0-3 ACC): 67 WS 141 lbs. (3 qualifiers) #1 Cole Matthews (PITT) (15-9, 4-0 ACC): 14 CR, 29 RPI, 5 WS #2 Ryan Jack (NCST) (16-3, 4-1 ACC): 4 CR, 4 RPI, 8 WS #3 Tom Crook (VT) (18-6, 2-2 ACC): 15 CR, 16 WS #4 Lachlan McNeil (UNC) (18-5, 0-4 ACC): 5 CR, 12 RPI, 12 WS #5 Jack Gioffre (UVA) (14-5, 1-1 ACC): 24 RPI, 38 WS #6 Christian Coleman (DUKE) (1-11, 0-3 ACC): 76 WS 149 lbs. (2 qualifiers) #1 Caleb Henson (VT) (24-1, 2-0 ACC): 2 CR, 2 RPI, 2 WS #2 Jackson Arrington (NCST) (16-3, 2-1 ACC): 4 CR, 7 RPI, 5 WS #3 Jayden Scott (UNC) (16-11, 3-1 ACC): 32 CR, 41 WS #4 Finn Solomon (PITT) (15-9, 2-3 ACC): 26 RPI, 33 WS #5 Michael Gioffre (UVA) (9-7, 0-2 ACC): 48 WS #6 Jarred Papscy (DUKE) (5-16, 0-2 ACC): 69 WS 157 lbs. (2 qualifiers) #1 Sonny Santiago (UNC) (13-7, 3-0 ACC): 29 CR, 30 RPI, 26 WS #2 Ed Scott (NCST) (19-5, 3-1 ACC): 13 CR, 3 RPI, 5 WS #3 Bryce Andonian (VT) (14-4, 0-1 ACC): 4 RPI, 10 WS #4 Jared Keslar (PITT) (12-14, 1-2 ACC): 44 WS #5 Dylan Cedeno (UVA) (11-3, 0-0 ACC): 31 CR, 40 WS #6 Logan Ferrero (DUKE) (7-15, 0-3 ACC): 64 WS 165 lbs. (2 qualifiers) #1 Derek Fields (NCST) (15-3, 4-1 ACC): 18 CR, 23 WS #2 Holden Heller (PITT) (12-5, 4-1 ACC): 16 CR, 30 RPI, 14 WS #3 Connor Brady (VT) (12-7, 4-1 ACC): 20 CR, 18 RPI, 25 WS #4 Nick Hamilton (UVA) (9-7, 2-3 ACC): 41 WS #5 Isaias Estrada (UNC) (7-16, 1-4 ACC): 48 WS #6 Gaetano Console (DUKE) (9-14, 0-5 ACC): 61 WS 174 lbs. (4 qualifiers) #1 Mekhi Lewis (VT) (13-0, 3-0 ACC): 2 CR, 2 WS #2 Justin McCoy (UVA) (16-4, 2-2 ACC): 15 CR, 16 RPI, 17 WS #3 Tyler Eischens (UNC) (10-6, 2-2 ACC): 23 CR, 15 RPI, 22 WS #4 Alex Faison (NCST) (11-10, 1-3 ACC): 32 CR, 33 RPI, 41 WS #5 Luca Augustine (PITT) (13-4, 2-2 ACC): 17 CR, 8 RPI, 23 WS #6 Jack Wimmer (DUKE) (6-13, 0-1 ACC): 77 WS 184 lbs. (4 qualifiers) #1 TJ Stewart (VT) (8-2, 2-1 ACC): 14 CR, 16 WS #2 Reece Heller (PITT) (17-5, 3-1 ACC): 12 CR, 16 RPI, 17 WS #3 Dylan Fishback (NCST) (15-6, 2-2 ACC): 9 CR, 9 RPI, 13 WS #4 Gavin Kane (UNC) (17-7, 2-1 ACC): 25 CR, 22 RPI, 26 WS #5 Ethan Weatherspoon (UVA) (4-3, 0-2 ACC): 63 WS #6 Conor Becker (DUKE) (5-16, 0-2 ACC): 74 WS 197 lbs. (4 qualifiers) #1 Trent Hidlay (NCST) (22-0, 5-0 ACC): 2 CR, 4 RPI, 2 WS #2 Andy Smith (VT) (14-7, 4-1 ACC): 25 CR, 15 RPI, 24 WS #3 Max Shaw (UNC) (17-4, 3-2 ACC): 19 CR, 16 RPI, 21 WS #4 Mac Stout (PITT) (18-5, 2-2 ACC): 15 CR, 25 RPI, 17 WS #5 Krystian Kinsey (UVA) (11-6, 1-4 ACC): 36 WS #6 Kwasi Bonsu (DUKE) (3-20, 0-6 ACC): 64 WS 285 lbs. (2 qualifiers) #1 Owen Trephan (NCST) (15-5, 1-0 ACC): 12 CR, 12 RPI, 10 WS #2 Hunter Catka (VT) (13-5, 3-0 ACC): 18 CR, 16 RPI, 19 WS #3 Ryan Catka (UVA) (14-4, 2-2 ACC): 32 CR, 32 RPI, 30 WS #4 Dayton Pitzer (PITT) (8-4, 0-0 ACC): 11 WS #5 Connor Barket (DUKE) (17-12, 0-2 ACC): 42 WS #6 Cade Lautt (UNC) (11-10, 0-2 ACC): 54 WS Team Standings Prediction (No Bonus) 1. North Carolina State - 96 2. Virginia Tech - 85 3. Pittsburgh - 47.5 4. North Carolina - 41 5. Virginia - 30.5 6. Duke - 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanMogen Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Got my Duke Wrestling hoodie and giant foam finger ready to watch them shock the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanMogen Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Holy shit. Just realized Tom “The Big Cat” Erikson is Duke’s Assistant Coach. Big Cat is going to do to the ACC what he did to Randleman. The lighter colored pixels are Coach Erickson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerman Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Has Duke only won one individual match the ENTIRE ACC dual meet season? Ouch......how do you keep your job with that track record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Show_Me Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 On 3/5/2024 at 3:31 PM, bracketbuster said: Not really many changes. Pitzer is in for Pittsburgh at the #4 seed is probably the most notable.+ 285 lbs. (2 qualifiers) #1 Owen Trephan (NCST) (15-5, 1-0 ACC): 12 CR, 12 RPI, 10 WS #2 Hunter Catka (VT) (13-5, 3-0 ACC): 18 CR, 16 RPI, 19 WS #3 Ryan Catka (UVA) (14-4, 2-2 ACC): 32 CR, 32 RPI, 30 WS #4 Dayton Pitzer (PITT) (8-4, 0-0 ACC): 11 WS #5 Connor Barket (DUKE) (17-12, 0-2 ACC): 42 WS #6 Cade Lautt (UNC) (11-10, 0-2 ACC): 54 WS Interesting that Pitzer was not submitted for the 3rd Coaches Ranking but is now wrestling @ ACC Tourney. If healthy, I would expect him to steal a bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gantry Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I've barely followed the ACC this year admittedly but if Owen Trephan only wrestled one ACC match it feels like he shouldn't be the #1 seed over a 3-0 Catka. IMO you have to give more weight to how they did in the conference this year, should be the top factor for conference tourney seeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) On 3/5/2024 at 7:56 PM, burgerman said: Has Duke only won one individual match the ENTIRE ACC dual meet season? Ouch......how do you keep your job with that track record? Those numbers were only against starters I believe Edited March 7 by 1032004 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bracketbuster Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 35 minutes ago, Show_Me said: Interesting that Pitzer was not submitted for the 3rd Coaches Ranking but is now wrestling @ ACC Tourney. If healthy, I would expect him to steal a bid. Pitzer wasn't eligible to be ranked since he hadn't wrestled since January 21. The ACC records only include results against those who are also competing at the postseason in the same weight so Trephen was 4-0 in conference duals but it is interesting that he only hit 1 other starter. Virginia Tech sent out Jim Mullen against him and Trephen won 4-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show_Me Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 28 minutes ago, bracketbuster said: Pitzer wasn't eligible to be ranked since he hadn't wrestled since January 21. Your correct. I know the 30 day rule, just didn't look when Pitzer's last match was. I still expect him to "steal" an AQ's bid. Edited March 7 by Show_Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 On 2/24/2024 at 8:06 AM, bracketbuster said: I use head to head mostly. I would assume that is the primary seeding criteria but I don't know that for sure.There are definitely weights that are up in the air and 141 is one of them. I didn't know where to put Gioffre because neither he or McNeil wrestled in the UVA/UNC dual. Giofree didn't beat the starter but he also went out for the dual and won to his credit while Crook did not wrestle. A couple other weights that I will be interested to see how they do seeding. 157: I have no idea where you put Bryce Andonian. He is still listed as the starter according to wrestlestat but his only ACC result is a loss to Scott at CKLV. 165: The top three all split with each other so all three have an argument. Fields had the closest loss and then Heller beat Brady head-to-head was my logic but you can argue that in circles. 174: McCoy who I have at #2 beat my #3 Eischens and #4 Faison but lost to #5 Augustine. 184: There were a lot of matchups that didn't happen in the regular season and everybody has at least one loss in conference so that is another where there are definitely arguments for and against moving those guys. 285: The HWTs also had a lot of missed regular season matchups. I don't know what you do with Pitzer who if he returns for the postseason it would be his first conference tournament and he did not have any regular season ACC results due to injury. That being said, that makes him a dangerous #6 seed (or whever he ends up) if he is healthy for the postseason. Well, looks like “not going out for the dual” paid off for Crook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Starting now on ESPN+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 125 gonna 125. Both lower seeds win with Colton Camacho over Moore in TB and Agin over Montaperto in SV. Montaperto had teched him 18-0 in the first period in the dual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanMogen Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: 125 gonna 125. Both lower seeds win with Colton Camacho over Moore in TB and Agin over Montaperto in SV. Montaperto had teched him 18-0 in the first period in the dual That’s Agin of Duke. Duke won. Duke won a match. Chalk one up for Duke. Duke tied for first in the team race right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 184 lbs is starting. 197 coming up soon. I like Stewart for VT. Very explosive wrestler. Edited March 10 by Pinnacle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show_Me Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Trent Hidlay wins a Conference Championship wrestling just 1 match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Why does Robie have a black eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Jackson Arrington with the clutch takedown over Caleb Henson to win his first ACC title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creek chub Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 34 minutes ago, flyingcement said: Jackson Arrington with the clutch takedown over Caleb Henson to win his first ACC title That was not a takedown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creek chub Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Hopefully, there are 0 ACC refs at the ncaa tourney. The only consistent thing they did was be non-consistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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