Years where the best dual team DIDN'T win NCAAs?

[GopherINOHLand]

Any truth that they were looking into a dual tournament later in the spring after March Matness/Madness was over. I believe I saw something on X (formerly Twitter) mentioning it. I would love to see a separate tournament for duals as a fan.

[fishbane]

On 9/3/2023 at 3:43 PM, KCMO2 said:

Mizzou 2015.  Ended season ranked #1 after beating previous #1 Iowa in national duals finals, in Iowa City.  Took 4th at NCAA's.

The NCAA champions that year were the Ohio State Buckeyes.  The top 5 teams at NCAAs Ohio State, Iowa, Edinboro, Missouri, and Cornell all participated in the National Duals.  Ohio State lost in the quarterfinals to Lehigh and lost 4 duals overall that season.  They had several wrestlers miss parts of the season.

Missouri wrestled Ohio State in an early season dual which Mizzou won on the 5th criteria - most TDs.  The teams were somewhat different than in the postseason with Ohio State missing Bo Jordan and Kenny Courts.  Missouri was also not full strength.  They forfeited 141 (Mayes), England was up a weight from where he would wrestle in the postseason, I think Elben was up two weights and J'den Cox wrestled 285.  I don't recall if Mizzou's bumping up was somewhat forced due to injury or purely strategic, but it may have made the difference.  

125: Alan Waters (Mizzou) over No. 7 Nathan Tomasello (Ohio State) via 11-8 Decision
133: No. 9 Johnni DiJulius (Ohio State) over Matt Manley (Mizzou) via 5-2 Decision
141: No. 1 Logan Stieber (Ohio State) over (Mizzou) via Forfeit
149: Drake Houdashelt (Mizzou) over No. 3 Hunter Stieber (Ohio State) via Fall 2:39
157: No. 6 Josh Demas (Ohio State) over Joey Lavallee (Mizzou) via 3-2 Decision
165: Cody Johnston (Mizzou) over Justin Kresevic (Ohio State) via 9-7 SV1
174: No. 12 Mark Martin (Ohio State) over Mikey England (Mizzou) via 5-2 decision
184: Willie Miklus (Mizzou) over Josh Fox (Ohio State) via 12-2 Major Decision
197: No. 7 Kyle Snyder (Ohio State) over Johnny Eblen (Mizzou) via 15-5 Major Decision
HWT: J'den Cox (Mizzou) over No. 10 Nick Tavanello (Ohio State) via 4-2 Decision

11+2+2+9+2+12+5+4=47

8+5+3+7+5+2+15+2=47

[11986]

This has happened plenty of times over the years. Ok St over Iowa a few times come to mind. Ok St beat Iowa the year Iowa set the tournament scoring record (1997) in the dual, forget the score but think it was pretty solid, albeit with Lincoln McIlravy not wrestling for Iowa. And in 1984 Ok St beat the Hawks 24-6 in dual but Iowa beat them by about 25 in tournament.     

Edited September 5, 2023 by 11986

[11986]

to the above, I guess I only provided examples where the eventual tournament champ lost a dual...I assume but am not positive that Ok St was the #1 dual team in both of those cases.

 

Edited September 5, 2023 by 11986