Monday & Glory, Princeton

[BigRedFan]

16 minutes ago, RYou said:

Graduate student eligibility extension denied for Classes of 2022, 2023 and 2024 | The Dartmouth

Check out this article.  The Ivy is allowing graduates in 2022, 2023 and 2024, an extra year of eligibility to compete as a graduate student.  If they are eligible at their Ivy, they'll be eligible at any NCAA school, with or without a scholarship.  Obviously, they need to qualify for and be offered a seat as a graduate student, or they can just transfer.

Piling on:  did you read the article?  There was a one year exception, which allowed *seniors* that year to compete *only the following year  and only at that institution* as graduate students.  As the article indicated, this decision came too late for most seniors.  At Princeton, it came after the deadline for applying to Princeton graduate schools, and Princeton refused to change the deadline to accommodate these students.  One Cornell student (Adam Santoro) took advantage of that.

Any Ivy athlete with *NCAA* eligibility left at graduation is and always has been free to transfer outside the Ivy League and compete as a graduate student eslewhere (see Patrick Brucki graduating from Princeton and competing for Michigan).

[D3 for LU]

Is Monday going 157 or 165?

D3

[BigRedFan]

33 minutes ago, D3 for LU said:

Is Monday going 157 or 165?

D3

157.

[RYou]

12 hours ago, BigRedFan said:

Piling on:  did you read the article?  There was a one year exception, which allowed *seniors* that year to compete *only the following year  and only at that institution* a

12 hours ago, BigRedFan said:

Piling on:  did you read the article?  There was a one year exception, which allowed *seniors* that year to compete *only the following year  and only at that institution* as graduate students.  As the article indicated, this decision came too late for most seniors.  At Princeton, it came after the deadline for applying to Princeton graduate schools, and Princeton refused to change the deadline to accommodate these students.  One Cornell student (Adam Santoro) took advantage of that.

Any Ivy athlete with *NCAA* eligibility left at graduation is and always has been free to transfer outside the Ivy League and compete as a graduate student eslewhere (see Patrick Brucki graduating from Princeton and competing for Michigan).

Any Ivy athlete with *NCAA* eligibility left at graduation is and always has been free to transfer outside the Ivy League and compete as a graduate student eslewhere (see Patrick Brucki graduating from Princeton and competing for Michigan).

Ah, how a minor omission "not", makes a bit of a difference.  

11 hours ago BigRedFan said:

"Any Ivy athlete with *NCAA* eligibility left at graduation is and always has been free to transfer outside the Ivy League and compete as a graduate student eslewhere (see Patrick Brucki graduating from Princeton and competing for Michigan)."

Essentially this is the point I've making.

In relation to the Dartmouth article posted, how is it Glory and Monday have a 5th year of Ivy eligibility, but didn't graduate in 2021 ? (Ivys cap participation at 4 years)

Edited November 11, 2022 by RYou

[BigRedFan]

22 minutes ago, RYou said:

Ah, how a minor omission "not", makes a bit of a difference.  

11 hours ago BigRedFan said:

"Any Ivy athlete with *NCAA* eligibility left at graduation is and always has been free to transfer outside the Ivy League and compete as a graduate student eslewhere (see Patrick Brucki graduating from Princeton and competing for Michigan)."

Essentially this is the point I've making.

In relation to the Dartmouth article posted, how is it Glory and Monday have a 5th year of Ivy eligibility, but didn't graduate in 2021 ? (Ivys cap participation at 4 years)

No Ivy League athlete gets five years of Ivy League eligibility.  Period.  The only graduate students who were allowed to compete were those who were enrolled as seniors when all Ivy League competition was cancelled and who were accepted as graduate students at the same institution.  They didn't get five years of Ivy eligibility.

Enrolled uses up a year of eligibility.  They made a one year exception as noted above.

[RYou]

Patrick Glory - listed as a senior, not grad, 22/23 is his 5th year - Patrick Glory - Wrestling - Princeton University Athletics (goprincetontigers.com)

Quincy Monday - listed as a senior, not grad, 22/23 is his 5th year - Quincy Monday - Wrestling - Princeton University Athletics (goprincetontigers.com)

Now I get it, neither were on the Princeton roster during the 20/21 season the Ivy cancelled all sports.

2020-21 Wrestling Roster - Princeton University Athletics (goprincetontigers.com)

Both took a gap year and did not enroll.  See below, too bad they couldn't get an Olympic waiver which would have preserved that year of eligibility

‘Back out on the mat’: Wrestler Pat Glory ’23 competes through gap year - The Princetonian (dailyprincetonian.com)

[lu1979]

20 minutes ago, RYou said:

 

Both took a gap year and did not enroll.  See below, too bad they couldn't get an Olympic waiver which would have preserved that year of eligibility

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You seem to not grasp the concept that the only way an athlete will get to compete in 5 full seasons of NCAA competition is if one of those seasons of competition was the 2020-2021 free year.  If you did not compete in the 2020-2021 season you will not be able to actually compete in 5 years of an NCAA sport.