Jim L

Kozlowski 2x for D2??

While we are doing Greco trivia name the only DI champ to win a world meal. And name at least two other DI champs who made US World team.

I was ready to guess NMU alum Harry Lester, but think he only had one world medal

Ghafarri?

Judo has had unlimited OT for about a decade it is not working well. In high level close matches competitors often converse energy and minimize attacks saving everything for the inevitable OT with a single score winning the match. Too often they also rely on penalties are try to game the system not to score but to try to get a penalty called on their opponent (OT only ends with three penalties which is a DQ). Too many gold medal matches were won on penalties and IMO Judo penalties are easier to call and usually more obvious if when person deserves a penalty. We have all seen in Geco when there is no scoring and both wrestlers equally deserve a stall call the ref randomly picks one. It is so hard to score in high level Greco. I imagine a large percentage of OT matches would be decided by penalties which would be terrible. Unlimited OT is not the answer. Not that I have a good answer as the real problem is the number of 1-1 matches that both scores are penalties. Deciding which wrestler go the first penalty and which one deserves to win because of that is not a real solution. My solution is to add foot sweeps and trips with no leg grabbing, while we are at it add arm bar submissions as well. We have seen for too many years how hard it is good score in Greco and the result has been a really terrible sport.

I assuming that you mean Dan Gable. He wasn't making the final for a world/Olympic world as a HSer

Thread isn't about who would have had the best career, but who would have received the most NIL. Pico is a good answer, some of the most impressive results ever for a HSer

Great trivia questions! Finding "full-grown" adult men in the US who could make 105 led to interesting results. I have to think if it was still a international weight class with the current level of High Schoolers we would be seeing HS freshman competing for world teams

Gotta be a 105 lb guy. Eiter?

The politics of the IOC wanting to drop wrestling has every little to do with its worldwide popularity. It is not popular in Western Europe which dominates the IOC. And that decision was hugely unpopular. For years after people who weren't sports fan and knew nothing about wrestling other than that I used to wrestle would mention what a terrible decision that was.

10+years ago when MMA was really starting to grow lots of wrestling fans (including myself) thought that this would be great for wrestling and it really has not happened. Kids interested in MMA now will either get involved in BJJ or just train pure MMA which is an option now. Getting wrestling closely associated with MMA is a doubled edged sword. It may attract more of the aggressive kids who need an outlet but turn off the less confident, hard working type, especially if they don't come from a wrestling family. For parents who don't know much about wrestling being close tied to MMA is not going to help encourage them to encourage their kids to wrestle. IMO, most non wrestling families that are not in the few wrestling hot spots in the US fanow very little about the sport, but there is general feeling that it is required discipline hard work and technique and can accomodate athletes of any size MMA is almost like the WWF back in my day. Very popular and had many ex-wreslters and attracted kids to "real" wrestling but questionable if it was good for the sport overall

I get them too. Terrible click bait. Great headlines, then an articles with terrible writing (I assume usually AI generated) with tons of ads and you have to scroll and scroll to get to part of the article you are actually want to read I assume they are algorithmically driven based on your browser history as I also get articles based on the others things I look at on the web( biking, hiking, NFL) Lots of top ten lists as well. I am like Charlie Brown with the football with this. I know shouldn't do it, but can't help myself, maybe this time it will be different.

Agreed. Making wrestling a feeder system to MMA is not a good idea. Most MMA fans wants the excitement/violence of punches and kicks and KOs. They do not appreciate a well executed double leg. If they appreciate grappling at all is is likely they like or practice BJJ and the things we like about mat wrestling (back points and pins) do not make sense to a BJJ fans

That almost never happens at high level FS matches. Riding time is often huge factor in NCAA matches

Alexander Medved (arguably the greatest wrestler of all time) did not start wrestling until he was 19. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Aleksandr-Medved