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Wow, Forrest is so crafty and creative.. He out-Grossed Gross.

61KG should be two zen masters of idiosyncrasy, length, and scrambling.

Impressive performance and tournament for LL. Lee is another animal but LL is quick and can get to the angles.

Apparently, there is an opening at the Papacy in Rome. Not sure what the equivalent of that is for wrestling.

Ha! The sun is actually worth honoring, respecting, and increasingly fearing (given the warming planet) since it is the source of light, life, and en-light-enment. As for invisible or imaginary deities or beings, that's another story. I jokingly call myself a "solar monotheist" (especially in winter), but I would gladly honor other suns (stars)—"solar polytheism"—if they would make an appearance in our neck of the solar system. Here's an artificial sun for those cloudy days when it might come in handy:

Oh well, that's not too surprising. My sense is that athletes can certainly be very intelligent but they are rarely deeply (or even critically) educated. When your focus is largely on the body, the "muscle" of the mind is not exercised or strengthened And many athletes tend to embrace authority (instead of doubt, skepticism, or curiosity) and loyalty (instead of truth). They look for and are drawn to things that "work" (for them) and downplay whether they are true or even right. In some ways, that's fine. A problem, however, often arises when they start to speak publicly about matters outside the realm of sport and to project the values or dimensions of sport (especially combat) onto the larger world.

How about the All Atheist Team (or at least Skeptics, Agnostics, "Apatheists", philosophical Buddhists or Taoists, and even Christian Atheists ... yes they exist)? It's often the more educated or preternaturally intelligent folks who don't go in for the superstitions and fictions. I have no idea who would be on it, but here are some possibilities: Jason Welch? I can't recall religious-speak from Dake, Taylor, Askren, Stieber, Yanni, or JB ... but who knows? Among athletes who were not wrestlers, I've heard Bruce Lee, Lance Armstrong, Nadal, Ted Williams, and Diana Nyad are (or were) likely non-believers. I'm sure there are quite a few, but it's still somewhat of a taboo for public figures to share that they don't believe. And, I think, many athletes tend to project their own athletic struggles, training, and stories onto the world or universe and so frequently tend to view things in simplistic, dualistic or Manichaean ways. And/or they often believe that "faith" will help them win, perform well, or at least comfort them in loss (and there is some evidence that it serves these pragmatic functions.) In any event, sports often have religious dimensions to them and in certain respects they are a substitute or supplement for religion: https://theconversation.com/how-sport-became-the-new-religion-a-200-year-story-of-societys-great-conversion-199576 If you follow or peak in on the Penn State wrestling forum, many of the posters actually seem to worship a wrestler: "In Cael we Trust" is the de rigueur mantra.

Buying stock on Black MAGA Monday when the market and economy are crashing because of the Orange Stain? Real smart, Tony. I guess you didn't pass ECON 101 at Iowa

Two great guys. Ohe had to lose. Congrats to Hamiti.

I wrestled McCormick in high school. My coach moved me up two weights to wrestle him because Bloomsburg was a rival. I had to drink a gallon of water right before weigh-ins just to meet the minimum weight. It ended in a tie. My father taught at Bloomsburg University when McCormick's Dad was President there. Now, DM is a carpet bagger from CT.

I don't see him beating Kasak again.

Lovett and Taylor will be sponsoring a stall camp this summer.

What is Manning challenging? Even the announcers admit it is a timeout. What BS

Wrestling need more guys like Anthony Robles ... and fewer guys channeling the toxic wanna-be dimensions of MMA

Lovett loses last year in choosing top. Henson loses this year in refusing to choose top. The yang yins and the yin yangs. Bad decisions in retrospect for each ... or was it the coach's call?

Bird is the Word. He deserved the W

Go to hell, you piece of s*** The Orange Felon, Quisling, and Stain is the enemy -- of truth, law, decency, and democracy. If you can't see that he is the textbook definition of a pathological narcissist and authoritarian, you have absolutely zero schooling ... and should be schooled yourself. You are obviously willfully ignorant and proud to be that way.

F*** that Orange Stain for walking out after the match and trying to take away the focus on what Starocci has done. He's a malignant narcissist and sociopath of the very, very, very worst kind.

"I'm wearing organic underwear. I'm using organic bamboo toilet paper". I think he has reached a whole new level of surrealism. Ford Pinto: hippie narcissist. If only he would discover Buddhism and take steps to extinguish his steroid embalmed ego. Perhaps a pilgrimage to Bodh Gaya in India over the summer is in order ... he can come back with flowers in his hair.

I like Shane Sparks and appreciate his energy (sometimes), but he is just being a cheerleader and shill for the network. He picks a cause or a side or a musical band or the name of a wrestling movie (e.g., coffee grinder) and then throws his whole being behind it ... even when he is completely wrong.

Speculation: ESPN knows that a certain visitor is coming to the venue. He wants to show up, watch a few matches, feed off the fan frenzy and excitement (and likely imagine it is really for him) in the biggest, first match, and then leave early. Perhaps ESPN is even being pressured to accommodate this visitor, though they would never admit this out loud so they come up with a strange, twisted, and illogical rationalization for starting with 184.

JB is a reasonable guy, but that is a bad rationalization rather than a good reason. Start at 125 and either (a) go straight through to 285 or (b) preferably, just rearrange the last three matches since in the situation now chosen, you are already doing that by putting 184 first. 125 .... 197, 285, 184. Simply put 184 last rather than first. Then you build up the interest over the whole series of matches.

You mean the rumor earlier tonight that they were imploding isn't veridical?

Jimmy: why don't you just admit that you love to hate PSU even though you pretend to be a fan? There is always a veiled kind of celebration in your predictions and reactions about Penn State's losses "demise". If going 27-3 through 3 rounds is "implosion", what would be a total collapse .... 26-4? LL was about as close as you can get to a win in the quarters. Kasak somehow just blew it at the end, and BD was not expected to win agains the #1 guy. i think you need to find a team to actually root FOR rather than being such a, well, bipolar fan.

Given the subject header, I couldn't resist: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/15/salmon-cannon-fish-dam