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Are you simply mad that the Senate might not confirm the illustrious Matt Gaetz as Attorney General since he is in the Orange Stain's All Star cabinet lineup? Or maybe another All-most Star, Pete Hegseth, the least qualified Defense Secretary pick in American history

What used to be a much better event if you were paying attention. Yea, but they don't have a tournament to decide who goes to the All Star match. You "reasoning" (analogy) is beyond flawed. Why not just pick the "All Stars" out of a hat, then? See, it's easy to play with reductio ad absurdum and other fallacies.

Exactly, but either a lot of posters here don't know much wrestling history or they can't read between the lines. An All Star event in most every other sport generally features the very best athletes, not the second, third, fourth, or ninth best. But, I guess, if people get excited about #8 vs. #9, that's their preference for embracing a watered down world of value.

In fact, it's just the facts or factoids, which I thought would be up your headachin' alley since you are a data-head

Below is this weekend's lineup. It is debatable whether it is an "All Star" slate. Using Flo's rankings, there is exactly one #1 ranked wrestler. And one matchup that features #1 vs. #2. The average ranking for the 20 wrestlers is #4. On the positive side, there are 6 guys ranked #2 and 4 guys ranked #3. But there are also 2 wrestlers ranked #8 and one at #9. "Star"occi is clearly an All Star. I get it though. Some wrestlers have other commitments. Some might be injured. Some see no gain in competing, and so on. But perhaps the event should be billed as "Al(most) Stars" or something of the sort. In any event, which matches are folks looking forward to the most? 197: #6 Stephen Little, Little Rock vs #9 Zac Braunagel, Illinois 285: #3 Nick Feldman, Ohio State vs #8 Taye Ghadiali, Campbell 125: #2 Jore Volk, Wyoming vs #5 Tanner Jordan, South Dakota State 133: #2 Nasir Bailey, Little Rock vs #6 Lucas Byrd, Illinois 141: #2 Jesse Mendez, Ohio State vs #3 Beau Bartlett, Penn State 149: #2 Shayne Van Ness, Penn State vs #3 Ty Watters, West Virginia 157: #4 Tyler Kasak, Penn State vs #5 Peyten Kellar, Ohio 165: #8 Hunter Garvin, Stanford vs #4 Peyton Hall, West Virginia 174: #2 Levi Haines, Penn State vs #3 Cade DeVos, SDSU 184: #1 Carter Starocci, Penn State vs #2 Parker Keckeisen, Northern Iowa

Gable is still debating what costume to wear for his debut, or re-debut, or re-re-debut.

Nickal is now a shill for far right demagogues. He's also a zealot Christer and generally just a toxic loudmouth. Here's to hoping he gets his clock cleaned soon.

I hear some other guys are looking for their shoes in trees: Wade Schalles, Dan Gable, Ben Askren. Gym Jordan .... There are even rumors that Dan Hodge found a pair hanging in a cemetery tree.

At this point, he seems a bit like a drama queen in search of a new drama. 2019: Freshman, 3rd at NCAAs 2020: Sophomore, NCAAs canceled 2021: Junior, 1st at NCAAs, though this year does not count against his NCAA eligibility 2022: Junior, 1st at NCAAs 2023: redshirt 2024: Olympic redshirt 2025: Senior

Imagine wrestling for almost half a day (11 hour) under the blazing summer sun with no end in sight. That’s precisely what happened in Stockholm 1912, during what would become the longest Olympic wrestling match in history. Unlike today's six-minute wrestling matches filled with rapid takedowns and decisive holds, early Olympic wrestling had one rule for victory: pin your opponent. With **no time limit**, bouts could stretch endlessly. And in 1912, they did. The epic showdown between **Estonia’s Martin Klein** (competing for the Russian Empire) and **Finland’s Alfred Asikainen** remains unparalleled. Their match, in the **Greco-Roman style**, spanned a jaw-dropping **11 hours and 40 minutes**. Only upper-body strength and technique were allowed, making the marathon clash even more demanding. Both Klein and Asikainen were titans of their time. Klein, undefeated throughout the competition, faced Asikainen, a 1911 world champion and heavy favorite, in a battle for a spot in the gold-medal match. With a sweltering Swedish summer pressing down, their Herculean duel wore on for nearly **half a day** before Klein finally pinned Asikainen. Victory, however, came at a steep price: Klein, utterly spent from the effort, withdrew from the final, conceding the gold to **Sweden’s Claes Johnson**. This legendary contest didn’t just push the boundaries of human endurance; it reshaped the sport itself. The grueling match highlighted the need for regulated time limits to ensure the safety and spectacle of wrestling. Years later, though Klein was eligible to compete again in the 1920 Olympics, he chose instead to coach the **Estonian team** at Antwerp, embodying the spirit of passing the torch to future athletes. An 11-hour battle, the limits of human will, and the dawn of modern wrestling rules—this match is a testament to the raw resilience that defined early Olympic competition. #OlympicHistory #WrestlingLegends #Stockholm1912 #LongestMatchEver

Flo wrestling: All commercials almost all the time. With short breaks for wrestling

Let's take this reductio ad absurdum further: get rid of scoring and rules all together. Only one person walks out of the arena (venue) alive. Demolition Derby + MMA + Squid Game ≠ Hunger Games.

Great to see DT go with a medal and a win over a two-time World Champion. Amazing career in high school, college, and International freestyle

Ono was (and is) damn impressive. Cut through guys like a hot knife in butter. He's super quick and technically very good. Apparently, he will be training at Penn State this winter. Wondering whether Cael offers him a scholarship to do folkstyle or a place at the NLWC