PacMan

He already redshirted. But it remains a mystery why he hasn't wrestled this season and now looks to be missing Vegas as well.

My guess is that they will RS a few of their hammers. Loading up for podium runs in 2025-26 and beyond.

So two incoming heavyweights that are going to duke it out for 4-5 years? Man, the rich get richer. (Unless one of them could actually cut to 197?)

I did not wade through the 10 pages here so apologies if this was covered, but do we know if he'd be academically admissible at a Princetion/Stanford type of school? Guess those would be the next to be eliminated if he isn't....

Stanford has two returning AA's, and a wealth of young guns. Feels like a top 12 team.

Assuming he'll start and not RS, I'll go with Aden Valencia at Stanford.

Valencia is indeed ready to roll out of the gate, but I do agree that he's a 149 pounder, and Abas is likely coming back for another year. RS feels inevitable, but we've seen stranger things. A lot of these freshman hammers coming in for Stanford (Consiglio, Mara, Parco, Guffey, Cholakyan, Han Lindemeyer) I have to think will RS.

Duke and Bakersfield seem to be extremely vulnerable due to indifferent administrations.

Totally hear what you're saying, but not sure I'd judge a coach solely on his worst wrestler ever. Seems to me he still has quite a few redeeming qualities. But yes, maybe it wouldn't take as much money as I'd thought.

What about throwing a bag of money at Nickerson, get him closer to home?

This is a pretty solid lineup. Would be nice if Stanford could pick up a 197/HWT in the portal, esp. if Stemmet is done. They've recovered awfully well for having missed a year of recruiting when the program was tentatively dropped a few years back.

Does Teemer really still have another year left? Holy smokes.

Let's hope those guys don't get poached. That said, does anyone know the future conferences of Bakersfield, Poly, Little Rock, and Oregon State? I mean, time is up. Will they scatter, or will the "Pac 2" somehow grab another team or 2 and somehow remain a legit wrestling conference?

Fair enough. Looks like these two will be going at it for years to come.

Look, Bucky, Shapiro is a great wrestler. He's a future champion for sure. Cardenas beat him twice this year. Let's give a tiny bit of credit, that's all I'm saying. The excuses after every Shapiro loss are just a bit much.