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The very latest Rotten Tomatoes guide to free movies on YouTube is out for 2024. There are a number of tasty selections on the menu. I was going to watch Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga tonight, but I'm going cheap and will watch a free movie on YouTube. I'm leaning towards Source Code (2011), but I'm also going to eventually watch Train to Busan (2016). Also on the list is The Insider (1999). Thoughts? Recommendations? I'm also thinking about doing my own YouTube movie channel reviews. Because there aren't enough of them now. This'll have to be after the college season, though.

Brian Swaw and I get to talk to ILLINI Legend Brian Glynn about his wrestling career. Then, we start the Great Debate: Was the 2005 ILLINI team better'n the 2012 one? Jordan Blanton joins in defending his 2012 teammates. Coach Mike Poeta jumps in as an impartial observer. Here is a short trailer that deals with the Great Debate: The full podcast: Credits on YouTube.

Looking back at it, I think the writer meant that that would be a nice rule change. An aspirational goal. I was fooled, and I'm glad you spoke up so that I was incentivized to check the actual rule. Cheers!

Birden is long and tough, and he'll be a problem for years in the B1G. Shumate won that match. Swenski didn't wrestle up to his #43 Wrestlestat.com rating, and that makes him 3-2 on the year. Y'all need Feldman back. Finn Solomon is a good wrestler. That was a nice win for D'Emilio. I'll be rooting for Sasso against everybody but the ILLINI.

Correcting my earlier post. I wrote the post based on an article by the NCAA that seemed to outright state that any redshirt athlete could use those 5 free dates: For older athletes, competing for a few matches during a redshirt season can also allow them to gauge an injury, assess their health or just wear off some rust. But I looked up the actual rule (12.8.3.1.7 Exception), and it still only applies to Freshman. Still, I think the NCAA would grant Rocco Welsh and Ohio State a hardship waiver to wrestle against the ILLINI because otherwise it'll be a slaughter.

I posted about Welsh on @MPhillips' Ohio State forum about this issue based on an article by the NCAA that seemed to outright state that any redshirt athlete could use those 5 free dates: For older athletes, competing for a few matches during a redshirt season can also allow them to gauge an injury, assess their health or just wear off some rust. But I looked up the actual rule (12.8.3.1.7 Exception), and I believe you are right. Still, I think the NCAA would grant Rocco Welsh and Ohio State a hardship waiver to wrestle against the ILLINI because otherwise it'll be a slaughter.

The ILLINI's next dual is against the Buckeyes. I could see the good guys winning 7 and possibly 8 against the lineup they sent out tonight. Ohio State has four more duals in December before they face ILLINOIS. I'm thinking Tom Ryan has to get Rocco Welsh to stop eating so much food so that he can make 184 by January 10 and burn one of his "attached" days. 174: No. 17 Luca Augustine (Pitt) dec. e'Than Birden (Ohio State), 2-1 TB-1 (Pitt leads 3-0) 184: No. 11 Reece Heller (Pitt) dec. Seth Shumate (Ohio State), 6-5 (Pitt leads 6-0) 197: No. 16 Mac Stout (Pitt) dec. No. 15 Ryder Rogotzke (Ohio State), 8-2 (Pitt leads 9-0) 285: No. 14 Dayton Pitzer (Pitt) tech. fall Hogan Swenski (Ohio State), 16-1 (7:00) (Pitt leads 14-0) 125: No. 6 Brendan McCrone (Ohio State) major dec. Matt Marlow (Pitt), 8-0 (Pitt leads 14-4) 133: No. 7 Nic Bouzakis (Ohio State) major dec. No. 31 Vinnie Santaniello (Pitt), 14-4 (Pitt leads 14-8) 141: No. 2 Jesse Mendez (Ohio State) tech. fall No. 21 Anthony Santaniello (Pitt), 16-1 (5:00) (Pitt leads 14-13) 149: No. 12 Dylan D'Emilio (Ohio State) dec. No. 28 Finn Solomon (Pitt), 7-4 (Ohio State leads 16-14) 157: No. 7 Paddy Gallagher (Ohio State) major dec. No. 31 Dylan Evans (Pitt), 13-4 (Ohio State leads 20-14) 165: Jared Keslar (Pitt) dec. No. 8 Sammy Sasso (Ohio State), 13-11 (Ohio State wins 20-17)

Here's another "tossed" in this thread. There is a VERY bright line test in the rule and the application example: Tosses are different than throws. The wrestler threw the headgear. I would go so far as to say he flung it. The ref had no choice. And my opinion is not based on the fact that I'm biased towards referees, who I believe are actual Saints that we should listen to and abide.

Different strokestyles for different folkstyles. To put it all as plainly as possible, the referee did what the rule forced him to do.

I dissent. You have used two forms of the word "judgment" in your post, but this was not a judgment or discretionary call by the referee. He could not use his own judgment, my friend. The rule and the "situation example" both provide that in the event of a throw, there will be a penalty. The referee can only use his or her discretion if there is a toss. That didn't happen in this case. It was not a toss; it was an obvious throw. The board's and the internet's anger with this referee is misplaced. The anger should be directed at the folks who (1) wrote the rule, and (2) made it strict liability. On behalf of this board and the internet as a whole, I want to extend the most gracious apology possible to this referee, and I want to thank him for applying the rule that he had to apply. Referees are indeed wonderful people, and we really need wonderful people to settle our disputes on the mat, and, moreover, wonderful people like him deserve the benefit of the doubt.

The issue here is between TOSS and THROW. The rule, as written, is strict liability. If you THROW your headgear, you will be penalized. As demonstrated above, a TOSS would have an arc on it. This was a THROW, zero question about that. I would be able to convince twelve jurors of that fact, I am confident. This situation raises questions that we as Americans must address: 1. Are we to be a nation of rules, or shall anarchy prevail? 2. Should we not treat referees with the utmost respect, as they represent the best of us? On a final note related to your post, the physical laws you describe actually work against the aerodynamics of headgear. That's why you never see headgear-shaped aircraft. Those physical laws actually bolster my argument because that headgear had to work against those physical laws to maintain that much speed in the air.

Wasn't he wearing a Grant Leeth neck brace at Cougar Clash? Tough guy. Sad to see.

And I'm not saying this just because I want all refs to know that ILLINI fans love them and treasure them and respect them and want the good calls in the future. Sure, that's part of it, but there's also Physics.

Why not let Physics decide? If the wrestler just tossed his headgear, there would have been a significant arc involved. The formula for velocity in relation to gravity is v = gt where "v" is the velocity, "g" is the acceleration due to gravity (approximately 9.8 m/s² on Earth), and "t" is the time elapsed; essentially, the velocity of a falling object is calculated by multiplying the acceleration due to gravity by the time it has been falling. Let's use an analogy. I would consider a toss to be how you throw a baseball to your three-to-five-year-old boy when playing catch. A throw is what he starts to get when he is six. At seven, he gets the heat.