Penn State with 8-9 NCAA Champs & 0ver 200 points next year?

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38 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

People are really not giving Cole Mirasola enough credit. He took two losses, one to Luffman and one to Feldman as a true freshman that is adjusting to wrestling heavyweight. Next year will be interesting because with the final bosses gone, this weight is wide open. I think Kueter should be about as big of a favorite as anyone going into next year. None of the top guys are going to be the size of Kerk, Wyatt, Schultz, or Gable next year.

Kueter biggest favorite?  He’s not the favorite at all (Bastida)

[BruceyB]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

Kueter biggest favorite?  He’s not the favorite at all (Bastida)

Bastida AA'd once in 2022. He has all of the talent, but until he makes it through a season and actually performs in March, I'm not putting any faith in Bastida. Not to mention, if you actually read what I said, "I think Kueter should be about as big a favorite as anyone..." I did not say he was the biggest favorite, but that I would consider him in the mix with Bastida, Ghadiali, and Trumble. Kueter made huge strides in his first full year of competition and is likely on a higher trajectory of improvement than these guys going on into their 5th and 6th years of college.

[BruceyB]

22 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

177 points is pretty strong evidence against their worst season. You are only focused on ceilings and ignoring that floors raised significantly more than ceilings fell.

You just actually bolstered my argument. PSU underperformed, but because their floor was so high, they still set the scoring record. If you ran this tournament through a simulation 10 times, how many other times do you think Lilledahl, Bartlett, SVN, Kasak, and Haines all fail to make the finals? I'd bet they all finish no lower than third 10/10 times. 

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1 hour ago, BruceyB said:

Bastida AA'd once in 2022. He has all of the talent, but until he makes it through a season and actually performs in March, I'm not putting any faith in Bastida. Not to mention, if you actually read what I said, "I think Kueter should be about as big a favorite as anyone..." I did not say he was the biggest favorite, but that I would consider him in the mix with Bastida, Ghadiali, and Trumble. Kueter made huge strides in his first full year of competition and is likely on a higher trajectory of improvement than these guys going on into their 5th and 6th years of college.

Oh ok I thought you were saying you thought he should be the biggest favorite of any weight 

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2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Oh ok I thought you were saying you thought he should be the biggest favorite of any weight 

 No, not at all! I would just consider him a contender at heavyweight next year if his knee heals up and he continues to improve. He really got bullied by the big boys last year, and I don't think anyone that's left will be able to do that to him.

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1 hour ago, BruceyB said:

 No, not at all! I would just consider him a contender at heavyweight next year if his knee heals up and he continues to improve. He really got bullied by the big boys last year, and I don't think anyone that's left will be able to do that to him.

OK I’m good with calling him a contender.  I’d still favor Bastida and Trumble over him IMO though 

[BruceyB]

55 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

OK I’m good with calling him a contender.  I’d still favor Bastida and Trumble over him IMO though 

I agree. I actually pull back my take after reviewing his wrestlestat again. I thought he notched some bigger wins at NCAAs but I was mistaken. I'd lean more towards him being a 3-5 type guy until he shows a bit more.