Match outcome clarification

[Pablo]

I've been looking at a lot of score results in trac the last day and have come across some notation that I am not sure about regarding tie-breakers.

Here's a match outcome

Jack MacDonald (Buffalo) over Juliano Marion (Pittsburgh) (SV-3 8-4)

What exactly is SV-3?  I mean, SV-1 I get would be sudden victory in the first overtime period.  But after that, they go to 2 periods of starting in the referee's position, and it's not SV any more.  Now in high school they go to the UTB, but college uses riding time as the tie breaker after those periods.

So I am trying to figure out what is the SV-3, and, in addition, how does it get to a 4 point difference (a takedown to the back in SV period can go on to see if it goes to fall, but that would need at least 2 points near fall)

Trac also has matches that are listed as TB-1 (which I interpret as SV but I could be wrong) or TB-2 or even TB-3.  Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Gene Mills Fan]

5 minutes ago, Pablo said:

I've been looking at a lot of score results in trac the last day and have come across some notation that I am not sure about regarding tie-breakers.

Here's a match outcome

Jack MacDonald (Buffalo) over Juliano Marion (Pittsburgh) (SV-3 8-4)

What exactly is SV-3?  I mean, SV-1 I get would be sudden victory in the first overtime period.  But after that, they go to 2 periods of starting in the referee's position, and it's not SV any more.  Now in high school they go to the UTB, but college uses riding time as the tie breaker after those periods.

So I am trying to figure out what is the SV-3, and, in addition, how does it get to a 4 point difference (a takedown to the back in SV period can go on to see if it goes to fall, but that would need at least 2 points near fall)

Trac also has matches that are listed as TB-1 (which I interpret as SV but I could be wrong) or TB-2 or even TB-3.  Any help would be appreciated.

 

possibly sv1 no TDs.  SV2 no escape  Sv3 guy on top gets 4 near fall in a pinning combination  as time expires

or SV3 guy on bottom gets out action continues in SV2,3 and guy who escaped gets 3 point TD

Or SV 3  guy on bottom gets reversal and 2 point near fall as time runs out.

Edited 16 hours ago by Gene Mills Fan

[Pablo]

2 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

possibly sv1 no TDs.  SV2 no escape  Sv3 guy on top gets 4 near fall in a pinning combination  as time expires

or SV3 guy on bottom gets out action continues in SV2,3 and guy who escaped gets 3 point TD

But extra periods 2 and 3 are not SV, are they?  Sudden victory means the match is over when a wrestler scores.  However, periods 2 and 3 are both run out completely, with each wrestler having the opportunity to start on top.

This could be TB-3, which means they did SV and no one scored, and then did the two periods and one guy had a 4 pt near fall, but that wouldn't be Sudden Victory, just the tie breaker.

 

[Pablo]

I'm asking the Officials group on Facebook to see what they have to say.

[Pablo]

So here's what I learned.  Apparently there is the possibility of an SV-3 period, but it takes craziness to get there (the wrestlers have to have the same riding time in the first 30/30 AND the second 30/30.  It's also the case that you can't have a 4 point sudden victory.  I think this is more likely a case of the scorekeeper being confused and entering SV-3 instead of TB-3.  Wild.

Here's how the collegiate overtime sequence goes:

Regulation ends.

All riding time is removed.

• SV-1 (2:00). If still tied,

• TB-1 (:30) and TB-2 (:30). If still tied, whoever has more advantage time in the overtime period wins. If advantage time is also tied,

• SV-2 (1:00). If the score is still tied,

• TB-3 (:30) and TB-4 (:30). If still tied, whoever has more advantage time in the overtime period wins. If advantage time is also tied,

• SV-3 (1:00). If the score is still tied,

• TB-5 (:30) and TB-6 (:30). If still tied, whoever has more advantage time in the overtime period wins. If advantage time is also tied,

• Repeat the same process used for SV-2, TB-3, and TB-4 until there is a winner.

[SetonHallPirate]

Except that what you've labeled as TB-1 and TB-2 are both part of TB-1...

[d3wrestle.com]

The match that started this who thing was recorded incorrectly in Track. The final was 8-4 in regulation. Video here: https://www.flowrestling.org/events/12776310-2024-clarion-open/videos?playing=12972382&limit=60