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[Truzzcat]

Is Ali reza slated to be the guy for the next cycle at 74kg? I thought he looked good in the finals at the last two junior worlds.

[shiraz321]

12 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

Is Ali reza slated to be the guy for the next cycle at 74kg? I thought he looked good in the finals at the last two junior worlds.

He has to make it through the trials procedure which is a long process of domestic and foreign tournaments. He is going to compete at the Croatia ranking tournament early February. I think Emami will still be the rep this year at worlds. 

[Lucho]

9 hours ago, shiraz321 said:

He already went to 86 last year and lost to 700 year old ezzatollah akbari. Good luck to Azimi but unless a few guys around his age get injured I don't see him making a world team. The real talented wrestler from that part of Iran was 2018 cadet world champ ghiasi who unfortunately stopped wrestling 

I still think he can be a solid rep for us especially since we don't really have any solid 86kg or 92kg prospects off the top of my head apart from Ghasempour (28) and Firouzpour (24) respectively. A lot of people said the same about Azarpira after losing to Valencia and now he is 2-0 against Snyder and an Olympic bronze medallist. 

9 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

Is Ali reza slated to be the guy for the next cycle at 74kg? I thought he looked good in the finals at the last two junior worlds.

I'm not sold on him tbh he seems too one-dimensional relying too much on the underhook and doesn't shoot for the legs as much. I think his brother Yasin is a much better wrestler and I would like to see either him or Amouzad move up to 74kg for 2028. Regardless though 74kg is a Russian weight class for now. The depth they have at that weight is ridiculous and we don't have anyone super impressive at that weight unfortunately.

[shiraz321]

3 hours ago, Lucho said:

I still think he can be a solid rep for us especially since we don't really have any solid 86kg or 92kg prospects off the top of my head apart from Ghasempour (28) and Firouzpour (24) respectively. A lot of people said the same about Azarpira after losing to Valencia and now he is 2-0 against Snyder and an Olympic bronze medallist. 

I'm not sold on him tbh he seems too one-dimensional relying too much on the underhook and doesn't shoot for the legs as much. I think his brother Yasin is a much better wrestler and I would like to see either him or Amouzad move up to 74kg for 2028. Regardless though 74kg is a Russian weight class for now. The depth they have at that weight is ridiculous and we don't have anyone super impressive at that weight unfortunately.

Firouzpour isn't 24 unless you are saying he age cheated to win junior worlds (u20) in 2022. They are 1 year apart and Firouzpour beat him easily when they wrestled at 92. Azimi is too big for 86, which is probably why he lost to akbari and the same reason azarpira lost to valencia. He will have to get past Azarpira, Firouzpour and Hajilouian. Hajilouian and Firouzpour have both beat him easily and I don't believe he has wrestled Azarpira. All these guys are early 20s. His best bet is to stick around at 92 and wait until Firouzpour goes up. But if he wants to be an Olympian he needs to beat these guys at 97.

[Window12]

6 hours ago, Lucho said:

I still think he can be a solid rep for us especially since we don't really have any solid 86kg or 92kg prospects off the top of my head apart from Ghasempour (28) and Firouzpour (24) respectively. A lot of people said the same about Azarpira after losing to Valencia and now he is 2-0 against Snyder and an Olympic bronze medallist. 

I'm not sold on him tbh he seems too one-dimensional relying too much on the underhook and doesn't shoot for the legs as much. I think his brother Yasin is a much better wrestler and I would like to see either him or Amouzad move up to 74kg for 2028. Regardless though 74kg is a Russian weight class for now. The depth they have at that weight is ridiculous and we don't have anyone super impressive at that weight unfortunately.

I agree that Mobin Azimi did not do so well at 86kg but I remember at the time they were mentioning it was such a difficult cut for him and basically he is just a bit too big to cut to 86 kg.i recall a number of coaches were advising him not to do it but i think he had to try due to it being an Olympic weight.

92 seems to be the ideal weight for him just now. I think there is going to be a match between him and Firouzpour in Zagreb in February which should be interesting.

[Lucho]

15 hours ago, shiraz321 said:

Firouzpour isn't 24 unless you are saying he age cheated to win junior worlds (u20) in 2022. They are 1 year apart and Firouzpour beat him easily when they wrestled at 92. Azimi is too big for 86, which is probably why he lost to akbari and the same reason azarpira lost to valencia. He will have to get past Azarpira, Firouzpour and Hajilouian. Hajilouian and Firouzpour have both beat him easily and I don't believe he has wrestled Azarpira. All these guys are early 20s. His best bet is to stick around at 92 and wait until Firouzpour goes up. But if he wants to be an Olympian he needs to beat these guys at 97.

I read somewhere that he is 24 but I think it makes more sense he is 22 I stand corrected. Still I have soft spot for Azimi compared to the other wrestlers in his age range and I think he can do well if given a chance. I guess we will see who is better in Zagreb anyways. I personally rank Azarpira first, Firouzpour second, Azimi third then Hajilouian based on wins and accolades. Babaloo would have been in the conversation if he didn't fall off a cliff in the last 18 months or so but he did end up second in nationals this year so maybe a come back for him? Overall our depth is getting a lot better nowadays so it's actually a good thing a guy like Azimi will be struggling to make the team.

[shiraz321]

Khoramdel , Khari and Khateri win their opening matches in Croatia.

Rezai ( 65), who was being called the " Iranian Satiev" for winning  an empty Iran nationals where every decent wrestler was exempt loses round 1 to France. Does anyone over hype their wrestlers like us?

 

Btw stream is so low quality I think  the head of UWW should be thrown in prison for robbing me of 9 euros. 

[shiraz321]

Khoramdel loses to Georgia 11 - 9 and by pin after going down 7 - 0 at the start of the match. He threw himself to his back with like 20 seconds left and humbly self pinned. Khoramdel is a good wrestler but he starts matches terribly. He may be the new generation Bajrang. 

 

Khalili wins his opening match 5 - 2 

Rahmani loses 5 - 2  to Valencia and will not be able to wrestle the repechage as Valencia beat Israel in the match prior. Unfortunate as he is 18 or 19 and the experience would have been good. I think he can be good in the future. 

 

Elahi at 70 beats the American who beat Musukaev

 

Ebrahimnejad  easily beats the french wrestler who beat yasin rezaei. 

 

The other Rezaei brother at 74kg loses to Kuragamodev 6 - 1. Rezaei won junior worlds a few months ago but I don't see him going far. He is like a small Goleij.

[shiraz321]

Semi finals 

 

57 - Khateri teched by Azerbaijan. He will certainly return to juniors. There's no chance he will be a 57 long term with his height and frame. We will see what he can do in higher weight classes in the coming years. Has anyone been more hyped based off winning cadet worlds one time? Lol 

61 - Khari beats Momeni  3 - 3 to make the finals. Javan also apparently made the final on the other side although the stream for that mat was broken so I did not see it. 

 

65 - Ebrahimzadeh techs Ukraine in the semi to make the final. On the other side the Georgian loses to American McKenna 3 - 0 so Khoramdel is eliminated.  

70 - James Green doesn't show up for the semi final so Khalili goes straight to the final. Elahi loses 10 - 5 in the semi final to Azerbaijan on the other side. So Khalili will need to beat Azerbaijan in the final or I believe they will do a wrestle off between him and Elahi to determine who goes to Asian champs. 

74 - Dagestani - Hungarian who beat Rezaei gets teched by Carr of the USA, so Rezai's tournament is over.

Edited Wednesday at 12:31 PM by shiraz321

[nhs67]

How do my Irani friends here think a potential Parris-Masoumi rematch goes?  Does the gap widen, or does Parris actually show some sign(s) of life this time that aren't just reactive, garbage points scored?

[shiraz321]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

How do my Irani friends here think a potential Parris-Masoumi rematch goes?  Does the gap widen, or does Parris actually show some sign(s) of life this time that aren't just reactive, garbage points scored?

Parris will likely get pushed out seven trillion times 

[Truzzcat]

12 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Parris will likely get pushed out seven trillion times 

Who is this fella Firouz that wrestled zahid at 86kg I saw that he lost to kadiev at u23's but he is only 18 years old.

[shiraz321]

7 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

Who is this fella Firouz that wrestled zahid at 86kg I saw that he lost to kadiev at u23's but he is only 18 years old.

Yes he is pretty good. They are giving him a lot of opportunities in terms of tournaments . They got unlucky with the brackets here as he hit the best guy immediately ( Valencia) and won't be allowed to wrestle in the repechage due to the Israel policy, so he only ended up getting 1 match. I think he is going to the Asian championships also. 

[Truzzcat]

Momeni looks like amouzad circa 2020.

[shiraz321]

1 hour ago, Truzzcat said:

Momeni looks like amouzad circa 2020.

Don't think he will have the same success 

 

Medal bouts:

 

57 - Khateri loses 11 - 0

61 - Javan techs Khari and wins gold

65 - Ebrahimzadeh beats McKenna 8 - 6 for gold

70 - Elahi loses to Mexican - American Gomez And Khalili gets destroyed by Azerbaijan 11 - 1. Azeri beat Elahi 10 - 5. I think a wrestle off is fair for the Asian champs spot. Especially since Khalili got to skip a match

[Truzzcat]

24 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Don't think he will have the same success 

 

Medal bouts:

 

57 - Khateri loses 11 - 0

61 - Javan techs Khari and wins gold

65 - Ebrahimzadeh beats McKenna 8 - 6 for gold

70 - Elahi loses to Mexican - American Gomez And Khalili gets destroyed by Azerbaijan 11 - 1. Azeri beat Elahi 10 - 5. I think a wrestle off is fair for the Asian champs spot. Especially since Khalili got to skip a match

Javan looked awesome

[Irani]

Thanks for all the updates

Overall, this has been a pretty good tournament for Iran.

I had high hopes for Khalili, Khateri, Rezai and Khoramdel.  But they are all pretty young, and hopefully this will be a learning experience.

 

 

 

[shiraz321]

79 - Yousefi - Silver, lost 5 - 3 or 5 - 4 in the final to France 

92 - firouzpour gold over nurmagomedov 11 - 4. Nurmagomedov teched him in the u23 world finals a few years ago. 

Ghasempour may even return to this weight, him staying at 86 is not a sure thing. They say he lost weight due to the events of the recent non olympic worlds, lol. And to add to it apparently even Yazdani might come back this year and wrestle , in which case he would l certainly be at 92. My guess is Ghasempour stays at 86. And I don't think Yazdani should come back right away. 

Mobin Azizi went 0 - 1 losing to Abakarov in the first round

 

97 - Babalooo silver teched by Snyder in the final

125 - Masoumi - gold 

 

 

[Irani]

For anyone keeping track, US took first place, Iran took second, and Azerbaijan took third

https://khanehkoshti.ir/جام-اوپن-زاگرب؛-۴-طلا-و-۴-نقره-ایران-را-ن/

 

[Lucho]

This ranking series was quite interesting imo with regards to where these guys sit in comparison to the other senior team members. Khalili and Khateri still need more time to grow physically before competing at senior level and the Rezaei brothers need way more time training before they can be counted on for world/olympic level aspirations. At least Yasin tries to do something Ali is a lost cause at 74kg. Unfortunately Azimi still has a long way to go if he wants to be a contender (looks like my hype for him was misguided unfortunately). To my surprise the 61 boys did well though hopefully one of them becomes a medal contender in this weight class. What's quite concerning to me is the crazy number of Russian transfers for other countries it looks like Slovakia and France have imported Ossetia and Chechnya respectively. This isn't good optics for growing the sport unfortunately.

[GrandOlm]

Yousefi is facing Semonov tomorrow. I wonder how it goes. i could easily see Semenov coming in fat and way out of shape and Yousefi just pushing and cardioing him to death. But then again Yousefi has taken some bad losses himself. 

If Semenov does lose, that means Iran has maybe the three best Super heavyweights in the world and they are all keeping each other off medal winning runs. 

[shiraz321]

9 hours ago, Lucho said:

This ranking series was quite interesting imo with regards to where these guys sit in comparison to the other senior team members. Khalili and Khateri still need more time to grow physically before competing at senior level and the Rezaei brothers need way more time training before they can be counted on for world/olympic level aspirations. At least Yasin tries to do something Ali is a lost cause at 74kg. Unfortunately Azimi still has a long way to go if he wants to be a contender (looks like my hype for him was misguided unfortunately). To my surprise the 61 boys did well though hopefully one of them becomes a medal contender in this weight class. What's quite concerning to me is the crazy number of Russian transfers for other countries it looks like Slovakia and France have imported Ossetia and Chechnya respectively. This isn't good optics for growing the sport unfortunately.

The french guys aren't transfers. They grew up/were born in France to Chechen immigrants parents. But yes there are a lot of transfers to other countries, but I like it. Makes the sport more interesting. There is no realistic way to promote wrestling in a lot of these countries to the point where they have native guys that can hang with the countries with history and high participation rates in the sport. Unfortunately UWW seems to agree with you more than me and it seems they are moving to tighten the regulations on transfers. 

[Irani]

Great video summary of the results of the second half of Freestyle, include an interview with Massoumi, where he talks about Gable Stevenson

 

[Lucho]

11 hours ago, shiraz321 said:

The french guys aren't transfers. They grew up/were born in France to Chechen immigrants parents. But yes there are a lot of transfers to other countries, but I like it. Makes the sport more interesting. There is no realistic way to promote wrestling in a lot of these countries to the point where they have native guys that can hang with the countries with history and high participation rates in the sport. Unfortunately UWW seems to agree with you more than me and it seems they are moving to tighten the regulations on transfers. 

I'm all for growing the sport because that means potential for more weights at the olympics and greater product but having countries essentially buy talent is stupid. Why does Azerbaijan who has a strong wrestling program need to bring in Dagestani's? It's just bizarre that this has been allowed for so long and I'm glad they are changing it. You can't take an international tournament seriously when it looks like the re-run of the russian nationals.  Unless these guys actually have roots to the countries they are transferring to (i.e, familial lineage) these transfers shouldn't be allowed period. It also undermines local talent development which is much more important for growing a sport from the ground up.