bracketbuster Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 Note: I have no inside information on seedings so these are merely just my best guesses for fun but figured they could be good discussion starters. You can use the interactive brackets using the following letters: D, M, T, F (decision, major, tech, fall). Pac 12 Interactive Bracket Conference record is based on their record vs. who I have as projected starters at the same weight CR = NCAA Coaches Ranking RPI = NCAA RPI Ratings WS = WrestleStat Rankings 125 lbs. #1 Brandon Courtney (ASU) (9-3, 3-0 PAC 12): 8 CR, 7 WS #2 Brandon Kaylor (OSU) (19-7, 3-1 PAC 12): 12 CR, 11 RPI, 19 WS #3 Nico Povo (STAN) (18-7, 2-1 PAC 12): 28 CR, 13 RPI, 30 WS #4 Jeremiah Reno (LR) (16-7, 1-3 PAC 12): 42 WS #5 Eddie Flores (CSUB) (12-12, 0-4 PAC 12): 63 WS #6 Antonio Lorenzo (POLY) (5-7, 0-0 PAC 12): 41 WS 133 lbs. #1 Michael McGee (ASU) (18-2, 4-0 PAC 12): 4 CR, 4 RPI, 4 WS #2 Ethan Rotondo (POLY) (9-11, 4-1 PAC 12): 26 RPI, 32 WS #3 Jason Shaner (OSU) (19-9, 4-2 PAC 12): 17 CR, 21 RPI, 29 WS #4 Chance Rich (CSUB) (13-7, 1-3 PAC 12): 21 CR, 18 RPI, 33 WS #5 Jackson DiSario (STAN) (15-11, 1-4 PAC 12): 45 WS #6 Joshua Sarpy (LR) (7-15, 0-4 PAC 12): 68 WS 141 lbs. #1 Jesse Vazquez (ASU) (16-7, 4-0 PAC 12): 20 CR, 13 RPI, 23 WS #2 Lawrence Saenz (POLY) (9-7, 3-1 PAC 12): 40 WS #3 Cleveland Belton (OSU) (16-8, 2-1 PAC 12): 29 CR, 31 RPI, 38 WS #4 Jason Miranda (STAN) (13-10, 1-3 PAC 12): 46 WS #5 Angelo Martinoni (CSUB) (12-9, 0-3 PAC 12): 56 WS #6 Jayden Gomez (LR) (4-8, 0-2 PAC 12): 68 WS 149 lbs. #1 Kyle Parco (ASU) (21-4, 4-0 PAC 12): 5 CR, 3 RPI, 5 WS #2 Jaden Abas (STAN) (21-4, 3-1 PAC 12): 11 CR, 10 RPI, 16 WS #3 Dom Demas (POLY) (8-6, 2-2 PAC 12): 24 CR, 17 WS #4 Joseph Bianchi (LR) (9-12, 2-2 PAC 12): 41 WS #5 Josh Brown (CSUB) (16-13, 2-4 PAC 12): 50 WS #6 Riley Gurr (OSU) (11-8, 0-4 PAC 12): 63 WS 157 lbs. #1 Daniel Cardenas (STAN) (20-1, 2-0 PAC 12): 15 CR, 7 WS #2 Luka Wick (POLY) (13-11, 4-1 PAC 12): 48 WS #3 Isaiah Crosby (OSU) (5-7, 3-2 PAC 12): 45 WS #4 Matt Bianchi (LR) (13-10, 1-2 PAC 12): 50 WS #5 Maxwll Wilner (ASU) (4-11, 1-3 PAC 12): 66 WS #6 Brock Rogers (CSUB) (3-16, 0-3 PAC 12): 71 WS 165 lbs. #1 Matthew Olguin (OSU) (21-6, 4-0 PAC 12): 16 CR, 10 RPI, 18 WS #2 Shane Griffith (STAN) (22-2, 3-1 PAC 12): 3 CR, 4 RPI, 3 WS #3 Legend Lamer (POLY) (9-10, 3-2 PAC 12): 44 WS #4 Tyler Brennan (LR) (11-5, 2-3 PAC 12): 39 WS #5 Tony Negron (ASU) (9-12, 1-4 PAC 12): 51 WS #6 Braden Smelser (CSUB) (1-16, 0-3 PAC 12): 78 WS 174 lbs. #1 Cael Valencia (ASU) (10-9, 4-0 PAC 12): 31 CR, 36 WS #2 Aaron Olmos (OSU) (13-6, 4-1 PAC 12): 20 CR, 8 RPI, 24 WS #3 Tyler Eischens (STAN) (20-7, 3-2 PAC 12): 21 CR, 17 RPI, 25 WS #4 Albert Urias (CSUB) (12-11, 2-3 PAC 12): 28 RPI, 48 WS #5 Brawley Lamer (POLY) (6-9, 1-3 PAC 12): 53 WS #6 Triston Wills (LR) (14-10, 0-5 PAC 12): 56 WS 184 lbs. #1 Trey Munoz (OSU) (22-2, 5-0 PAC 12): 6 CR, 8 RPI, 6 WS #2 Jarad Priest (POLY) (12-10, 3-1 PAC 12): 54 WS #3 Brook Byers (STAN) (12-9, 1-2 PAC 12): 52 WS #4 Anthony Montalvo (ASU) (5-7, 1-1 PAC 12): 32 CR, 25 WS #5 Mason Diel (LR) (7-15, 1-4 PAC 12): 66 WS #6 Jacob Hansen (CSUB) (6-11, 0-3 PAC 12): 61 WS 197 lbs. #1 Bernie Truax (POLY) (11-1, 2-0 PAC 12): 5 CR, 8 WS #2 Tanner Harvey (OSU) (19-6, 3-1 PAC 12): 15 CR, 17 RPI, 19 WS #3 Nick Stemmett (STAN) (18-8, 1-2 PAC 12): 28 CR, 16 RPI, 31 WS #4 Kordell Norfleet (ASU) (6-5, 0-1 PAC 12): 17 WS #5 Mateo Morales (CSUB) (6-13, 0-1 PAC 12): 65 WS #6 Tylynn Lukens (LR) (11-10, 0-1 PAC 12): 72 WS 285 lbs. #1 Cohlton Schultz (ASU) (18-2, 3-0 PAC 12): 5 CR, 4 RPI, 6 WS #2 Trevor Tinker (POLY) (14-7, 4-0 PAC 12): 30 WS #3 JJ Dixon (OSU) (12-7, 2-2 PAC 12): 46 WS #4 Peter Ming (STAN) (13-12, 2-4 PAC 12): 50 WS #5 Josiah Hill (LR) (14-11, 2-4 PAC 12): 43 WS #6 Jake Andrews (CSUB) (2-16, 0-3 PAC 12): 75 WS
NearFall Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 125 lbs - Pretty difficult to include Antonio Lorenzo of Cal Poly here as he has wrestled only one PAC 12 match this season and that was a 6-5 loss to ASU's Richard Figueroa on Jan. 20th. The starter for Cal Poly at 125 lbs since then has been Koda Holeman and Holeman has lost to Reno, Provo & Flores. 141 lbs - I would have Oregon State's Cleveland Belton at # 2 seed based on comparing his result vs. Jesse Vasquez against Saenz's result vs. Vasquez, i.e., Belton lost 5-2 to Vasquez and Saenz lost 7-3 to Vasquez 184 lbs - I would have ASU's Montalvo seeded above Byers based on their results against Munoz. But it's a tossup either way I think. 197 lbs - I would have Little Rock's Stephen Little as the # 3 seed as he beat Stanford's Nick Stemmet 7-5. Little & Weinert have been Little Rock's starters at 197 lbs since late January and Weinert has lost every match while Little has won every match. Other than that I'd say your projected Seedings are spot on. Good job here. P.S. Even tho Griffith lost yesterday to Olguin 3-2 - and as a result he absolutely should be the # 2 seed - I think the next time those two face each other the result will be different. Griffith has been expending minimum effort in most of his matches this season for reasons known only to him. Hopefully that loss teaches him a life lesson that doing just barely enough to win will occasionally get you exactly what he got yesterday. When you willingly choose to "play with fire" you occasionally will get burned.
Idaho Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 I would guess that Montalvo gets the #3 seed based on his better record in the conference and because he is better. I would be surprised to see Nofleet - My guess would be Fagan at 197 for ASU as it has been for most of the season... Lorenzo is up in the air - He could go or possibly Holeman Some of your records are off, but that's okay - In a 6 team conference it's not too hard to seed. Sponsored by INTERMAT
NearFall Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 I don't see Norfleet participating either. Guess I didn't see him listed earlier (I had had only 1 cup of coffee then). I'd be very surprised if he participates next Sunday. Last I read he won't be back this season but he might petition the NCAA for next season (which would be a 7th season for him by my count).
Tripnsweep Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 It looks like Vasquez is out at 141 for ASU. 2
Idaho Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Tripnsweep said: It looks like Vasquez is out at 141 for ASU. two years in a row... bummer for him. Are they puling Ysa or Ramos' redshirt or going with Chlebove? Sponsored by INTERMAT
CraigOR Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 Too bad for Vasquez; a very talented wrestler. Team race may be a 3 way battle now. Upsets and bonus points playing a big factor. 1
Tripnsweep Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Idaho said: two years in a row... bummer for him. Are they puling Ysa or Ramos' redshirt or going with Chlebove? Ysa is going. They are pulling his shirt. 3
Idaho Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 It will be interesting to see where he ends up in the bracket. He had a huge win over Hardy of course, but also some bad losses as well. Sponsored by INTERMAT
SunDevil Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Tripnsweep said: Ysa is going. They are pulling his shirt. Shocking
SunDevil Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 On 2/27/2023 at 7:12 AM, NearFall said: I don't see Norfleet participating either. Guess I didn't see him listed earlier (I had had only 1 cup of coffee then). I'd be very surprised if he participates next Sunday. Last I read he won't be back this season but he might petition the NCAA for next season (which would be a 7th season for him by my count). He had a very hard time getting this year approved.
Tripnsweep Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 4 hours ago, SunDevil said: He had a very hard time getting this year approved. It isn't as if he doesn't have a good case for a 7th year. At this point though I don't know if he really wants to go through another college season. Kind of sad because injuries really held him back from being a title contender. At his best he can beat anybody in the country.
NearFall Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 On 2/28/2023 at 4:36 AM, Tripnsweep said: It looks like Vasquez is out at 141 for ASU. I know Vasquez didn't compete in ASU's last two duals vs Nebraska and CS Bakersfield but is there something definite that is 100 % certain that confirms that Vasquez won't be competing next Sunday? He hasn't competed officially since the dual vs. Oregon State on Feb. 5th where he beat Cleveland Belton 5-2. I'm just curious what lead to the conclusion that he won't be competing 1 month after he last competed. It certainly blows for ASU if he can't go. First they lose Jacori Teemer. Then they lose Kordell Norfleet. And now they appear to have lost Vasquez.
Idaho Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 Seeding meeting was yesterday... brackets should drop today. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT
Tripnsweep Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 5 hours ago, NearFall said: I know Vasquez didn't compete in ASU's last two duals vs Nebraska and CS Bakersfield but is there something definite that is 100 % certain that confirms that Vasquez won't be competing next Sunday? He hasn't competed officially since the dual vs. Oregon State on Feb. 5th where he beat Cleveland Belton 5-2. I'm just curious what lead to the conclusion that he won't be competing 1 month after he last competed. It certainly blows for ASU if he can't go. First they lose Jacori Teemer. Then they lose Kordell Norfleet. And now they appear to have lost Vasquez. Ysa posted on social media he was pulling his redshirt and competing at Pac12s. Unless something changes I think that is the plan, or if somebody else got injured and it is being kept hush hush. I don't think they would pull his redshirt for him to go up or down from where he has been all year. Especially with other capable backups at both 33 and 49.
Idaho Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 5 hours ago, NearFall said: I know Vasquez didn't compete in ASU's last two duals vs Nebraska and CS Bakersfield but is there something definite that is 100 % certain that confirms that Vasquez won't be competing next Sunday? He hasn't competed officially since the dual vs. Oregon State on Feb. 5th where he beat Cleveland Belton 5-2. I'm just curious what lead to the conclusion that he won't be competing 1 month after he last competed. It certainly blows for ASU if he can't go. First they lose Jacori Teemer. Then they lose Kordell Norfleet. And now they appear to have lost Vasquez. Trackwrestling Pac-12 roster Sponsored by INTERMAT
CraigOR Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 Brackets are now public: http://redirect.viglink.com/?key=71fe2139a887ad501313cd8cce3053c5&subId=6366834&u=https%3A//pac-12.com/article/2023/03/01/pac-12-announces-2023-wrestling-championship-bracket 1
Idaho Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, CraigOR said: Brackets are now public: http://redirect.viglink.com/?key=71fe2139a887ad501313cd8cce3053c5&subId=6366834&u=https%3A//pac-12.com/article/2023/03/01/pac-12-announces-2023-wrestling-championship-bracket Thanks! 9 minutes ago, ionel said: Is wOSU gonna walk away with this? No - I think it will be a close race Sponsored by INTERMAT
Idaho Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, CraigOR said: Brackets are now public: http://redirect.viglink.com/?key=71fe2139a887ad501313cd8cce3053c5&subId=6366834&u=https%3A//pac-12.com/article/2023/03/01/pac-12-announces-2023-wrestling-championship-bracket Going to start a new Thread for the championships - Thanks for posting. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT
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