Hammerlock3

1) No the first and second guy aren't the same. They have different names and look nothing alike. 2) The civilian causalities are 100% the fault of hamas, both in the sense that they could surrender anytime, and the sense that they are using human shields. Worth noting they aren't using civilian shields to win a military objective, they are doing it because they are trying to win a propoganda war. Their goal is civilian casualties. If you validate this tactic it will be impossible for a truly evil party to lose a war. Also the civilian causalities aren't even disproportionate when compared to other wars in similar terrrain. the fact that you are dropping the word genocide when you are defending a party whose open policy is genocide makes me think you've never encountered any of the arguments against your own position. 3) I could name ten things that would cause the people you listed to cease supporting Israel, there is nothing you could ever think of that hamas would stop at in order to restore a caliphate. So that comparison is ridiculous.

i notice you say "shifting goalposts" as if it was an argument in itself. In case you haven't noticed, there are protests all over american campuses, peaceful and not so much, over the war in Gaza. They are a partnership between muslim fundamentalists and leftists who think the cause of terrorism is fighting against it. These are both fundamentalist perspectives, just like "give me complete control of the world's economy or else climate change". this is why you see "queers for palestine" signs, people on the left will thoughtlessly virtue signal by promoting anyone with a trendy victim narrative. by the way you are being dishonest again, willie was referring to the first guy and I was referring to the second, whom could easily be fundamentalists in different ways, but sense there is a partnership between these two sides on this issue your comment still made no sense.

that background heavily implies he subscribes to the colonizer/colonizee narrative thats a religion in itself.

its kind of odd that you pretended I tried to crowbar a whole movement into one fringe person so you could make a snarky remark, but you tend to argue by posting video of individuals as if they were reliable summaries of huge groups of people. Almost like you only apply that level of analysis if it doesn't fit your narrative.

na they probably got to Gaza, realized Israel is just a bunch of mean people and decided to stay.

Who is a mystery at this point? Taylor, Burroughs, Starocci (has said he isn't coming back and sense then said he hopes JB comes back so they can wrestle)....who else is sort of lingering on the verge of retirement? Nolf? Retherford basically said he's done after this....Gilman? Richards?

YEAH BUT I DIDN'T DO THAT, hence conversation derailed.

ok this is where you have to argue in good faith. We were discussing people literally saying "Death to israel", and you just responded to me as if I said something about "all of these protesters". Tell me what is wrong about me saying someone chanting "Death to israel" probably means it.

I am pretty sure he understood sense that trope is so lame and shallow that no thoughtful atheist even references it anymore.

I try to remind myself before discussions like that this that there isn't a point unless I figure out something I hadn't known or considered before....uncle keyboard is one of the few times where I left the conversation thinking I really did know everything he did.

why

@uncle bernard was there some point in asking me if I thought people chanting "death to palestine" wanted the death of all israelis and the abolition of israel's political state?

No, sense I think they want to do both, i answered correctly.

I'm around a fair number, I'd guess 20% think its awesome, 40% respond based on the situation and don't think about it, 15% think its dumb but don't vocalize it, 15% think its dumb and say so publicly.

but his had is bowed in a show of solemn humility! Next you'll be saying AJ spamming jesus in his social media captions is cringe!

That say literally "Death to Isael" yes most of them. do you think that's a poor assumption?

@uncle bernard

out of curiosity, are you of the opinion that if someone is unwilling to denounce Hamas, they are likely sympathetic to people who are yelling "death to israel"?

Some cross promotion with MMA would actually help wrestling....unlike putting WFS and greco at the same place as the OTTs. Too bad it'd be hard to do a mixed card given the cage considerations.

I pray for it daily...while looking in the mirror, almost naked, in a public gym, as I scream something stupid, on tik tok....

nope. We rightfully point out how annoying these coaches can be the in corner, but watch this match and its hard to argue that Jones and Manning harassing the refs unmercifully took Tsargush's best "technique" away from him. epic singlet pull around the 2:15 mark

didn't burroughs finally get a point against tsargush in 2011?

yeah if you saying something really mean spirited or making an unsubstantiated accusation you're gonna get called out regardless, but if you're obviously attention seeking you're fair game for jokes when you're like 16 i think. It gets a little odd because jokes are supposed to 40/60 joke/truth, insults are 60/40 truth/joke or more...so people can blur those lines but i don't see anything like that here.

Gilman had the virtue of periodically getting completely embarassed and having to shut up for a few weeks....circle of life.

when ferrari hit the splits he saw the great cringe in the sky and was converted.