Southend

Have to give to Bubba, solely based on his name. As far as r as I’m concerned.

Yes and remember, penn stat was just getting off the ground when Ryan took over an already decent positioned university school in Ohio , hot bed of wrestling. but I can feel the frustration of losing the big guys of tje state. Indiana has been loosing for years!

So…… I take it… you are a regular there? What name do you post under? thanks for the lead anyway.

The situation is no different from any other big ten program not named Iowa, penn state , Ohio State. Count how many hammers have fled Indiana in tje last 6-10years. And Indiana , like Michigan, have two schools in the BIG and still lose them all.

Man there’s a bunch of old guys posting on this site. Are there any wrestling forums for younger guys?

Spangler has been starter and got dinged. Must be something minor. Frazier is freshman ,but what was available. Moran (sr.) took Olympic shirt.

Illinois would never have won if Indiana hadn’t wore Northwestern down . Now that’s a fact!

H.S.- Alex Tsirtsis hands down college and beyond, who you mentioned. I like to add Jason Tsirtsis here because he might have been a multi NCAA champ from Indiana.

No way, can he hop on one leg backwards, like Barry !

Say what you want. Coaching has inherent risks. Being a persons livelihood demands that , first and foremost he takes care of his family. Schools don’t seem to have any problems with dismissing a coach for performance results in tje middle of a season, let alone after or before. And not giving two cents about what the members of the team think, that he recruited. I can’t ever rough shot over a coaches decision to make a change of his career. It is up to the institution now to build on what Ayers brought to the school. And be thankful for what he brought to the school. He has it in better shape than when he started.

Does Joe match tje mental capacity of his wrestlers? Remember he went to a highly prestigious university Indiana.

Man , this is a rough crowd!

Agreed

No explanation needed, my older and smarter sister graduated at PU. I spent many weekends there as a high schooler hanging around coeds. And I can tell you Indiana has nothing on Purdue as far as partying is concerned.

lol. I graduated from iu. 2 degrees thank you. Don’t hold it against me. Can you rephrase this comment for me?

We’ve been hearing that ,a lot here ,about other programs also. ( overtraining) maybe. But the way they’re working may be the culprit. Ersland is a product of tje evil Iowa system of training! People don’t think this ,but weight cutting is probably harder on a wrestler than anything. So big cutters, and for a whole season can cause injuries from normal training. A lot of tje champs at the end of the year are not big cutters. And if they are, then they have very controlled amount of regular season matches. I know heavies don’t cut , that’s another story.

So…… as I understand it, the Illini get Northwestern on Sunday AFTER they spar with the Indiana squad. Now that’s no fair. After Indiana gets done with Northwestern they won’t have any fight left in them for Illinois! They’ll be wore down. shame on Illinois for taking advantage of them like this.

I would love to take the (A )back out. Maybe in another match. With Michigan, it will be handed to them.

While the anticipation of some great dual match ups this weekend, we have powerhouse Michigan visiting Bloomington tonight, for a 7 pm match with Indiana. (UGH) That’s right (IndianA ) with a A. Last week Hoosiers got their A handed to them. I’m thinking a similar results tonight ,if wolves keep everyone in their line up. ( stars) Who knows. But not that it would make a difference in the final results, for the Hoosiers, not sure if Washington, or Lillard, or Spranger will be in the IndianA lineup. Looking forward to keeping The (A) in Indiana tonight.

Erstland is a good coach but not have ing much success this year. And we all know about the mass exodus at Northwestern. This is a good year for Illinois to return some favors from the last few years.

These matches will make it all better for Illinois.

I agree

So what your story?

This is the “auto” reaction from anyone who is following a certain team. Not knowing, completely, about the other teams roster or talent. I’ve fallen into this trap though many times. But you are right, sometimes it’s just one guy better than the other on that given day. Nobody is invincible! Now will it happen again? That’s the real fun of competition.

How dare you call me “this guy “ it’s Mr. Southend to you!!!!