The_KC_Godfather

Man...you really need attention, huh? 3 posts saying the same thing. You got me...I used the wrong word. Congrats.

I said video, but meant the alleged snapchat pictures that CS took of BB naked and sent to their team group. I don't know anything about how snapchat works...guess I was thinking it was a video. To bring allegations like that, though, I would have thought BB or his wife had some sort of evidence (not text messages or cctv) that proved what they claimed on that front. To me, if the women that claimed sexual misconduct didn't come forward, there was no evidence of theft, the only thing that would be provable are those pictures. Couldn't CS bring defamation claims against the Bartlett's?

When the story originally came out, I saw on USA Wrestling's website, under "Ineligible Members", that his name was on the "Interim Membership Suspension" list. It's not there anymore. I assume that means USA Wrestling did an investigation and didn't find anything to keep him suspended. I would think any accusation of sexual misconduct would be taken very seriously by USA wrestling due to affiliation with kids clubs. He isn't listed on the NLWC athletes list, but who knows if he even planned to be. Any thoughts? Not a troll job...legitimately don't understand how there was supposedly video and now nothing...??

Agree 100%. But we’ve all seen guys that we thought were the next Cael and something always happens. Honestly, part of it is truly luck. Luck meaning no injuries, no illnesses, no over training or just feeling “off” on match day. I look at J’Den as a good example. True freshman at an upper weight (18/19 y/o vs. full grown men)…he was insane his true frosh year. Bad couple of matches otherwise he would have been a 4-timer and possibly undefeated with no RS. Same with Dake. Would love to see Jax or Duke be the next, but you never know…

4 years undefeated with no redshirt…

Where are you thinking? Will Rath challenge Conway? Will Stillwell challenge Stoner?

Brian Smith was just on FRL and it sounded like this is the projected lineup... 125: Mack Mauger 133: Kade Moore or Gage Walker 141: Seth Mendoza 149: Josh Edmond 157: J. Conway 165: Max Mayfield 174: Cam Steed 184: Aeoden Sinclair 197: Evan Bates or Colton Hawks 285: Jarrett Stoner Sucks for Hawks...definitely thought he'd AA at some point in his career.

For me, downplaying it when you only have one side of the story is the problem and I can see why the accusers are upset. There is clearly some evidence of wrong doing, otherwise, in the sue happy world we live in, there would be defamation lawsuits for the original article. CS was added to USA wrestling's "Interim Membership Suspension" list and booted from NLWC; Why, if it's a "nothing burger"? But, I do agree with others in this group that Willie/Flo/Basch/Mineo/etc. (whom I would call "wrestling enthusiast's" instead of "journalists") use their platforms to make money, and it's hard to get the clickbait needed if you lose your inside track by saying something that may upset your sources. I can't blame them for that...if only everyone was lucky enough to cover their sport for a living. It's a sensitive topic, so people are always going to be unhappy...

My take is option c.....it was calling it a "nothing burger". At least that's what I get from her post about your Basch show...

Right beside Ferrari and Snyder...

What a (not surprising) sick story. But, here's the problem... 1) How do you prove that the coaches were made aware or knew about it, aside from multiple people saying they did? They couldn't get Jim Jordan because there was no proof. 2) Did the girls file police reports or go to the doctor after the alleged rape? I don't think you can charge somebody or prove rape unless there's documentation. Perhaps if a large number of women claim it...? 3) If the campus police that they refer to are true law enforcement (somebody said they have their own police department), it's nonsense that they couldn't get a hold of him. My guess is that he either referred them to his lawyer or pled the 5th. In that case, it should still go to a prosecutor (I believe) to determine if they want to bring charges. Over petty theft? Nah. 4) Look at how tOSU covered up that stuff in the documentary. Does anyone really think that they would fire Cael...the guy who IS penn state wrestling? If anything, they'll find a scapegoat. But again, I don't know how you prove that he knew anything unless it was in writing (Did Bartlett or these others email him?...Life lesson: Always put it in writing). The most disturbing part, in my opinion, is the underage girls. 17 is considered a minor in PA, plus the rape allegations. Hopefully there's some proof here and that this doesn't get covered up (or the girls paid off) because "we are...penn state". If true, I hope he gets his.

I completely overlooked Robinson (don't know how). For some reason, Ryan Jack is not in Flo's list. Either they know something we don't or he was omitted unintentionally.

That is fun. Took me a few to get the hang of it (guess I should have read the instructions first). I want more! haha