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    due process

    in Non Wrestling Topics

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    46 minutes ago, Le duke said:

     


    Here’s a quote from a Trump-appointed judge, Hon. Terry Doughton:

    “It is illegal and unconstitutional to deport, detain for deportation, or recommend deportation of a US citizen,” said the judge.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/26/trump-administration-child-deportation


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    What is wrong with people?  This isn’t a case of a citizen being deported, it’s a case of an illegal mother being deported and chose to take her baby with her. 

    Democratizing Bribery

    in Non Wrestling Topics

    Posted

    18 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

    You are welcome. This is your big chance to meet your hero. Mortgage the house. Cash in your retirement accounts. Sell your car. Borrow from your parents. Liquidate the kids' 529 plans. Get as much $TRUMP as you can while the getting is good. If you truly believe in Trump it is time to prove it by putting your money where your mouth is. Trump wants you to put up so we all shut up. Do it. Do it. Get some of that sweet, sweet $TRUMP. Just think of the riches. Well, not for you. But what is your happiness compared to Trump's? Are you a true believer? Do it. Do it.

    You didn’t answer the question, or did you?

    Democratizing Bribery

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    4 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

    Trump is not sure how the real economy works, but he seems to be mastering the crypto economy.

    In the past, if you wanted to bribe a President you would have to give him a bag of cash, which could be problematic. Or maybe create a PAC. Now you can just buy his memecoin. But the problem with the memecoin is Trump needs to sell it to monetize the bribes (unlike World Liberty which just puts dollars directly in his pocket). This can present a real problem. Trump owns 80% of $TRUMP and his lock ups are starting to expire, allowing him to sell. But...

    If you sell too much, too fast, the market collapses and what you thought you had in bribes evaporates. And the thing about bribes is you do not want them to evaporate. You need buying pressure to offset your selling pressure. What to do? What to do? 

    On a completely unrelated note, Trump just announced that he will host a dinner for the largest 220 holders of $TRUMP. And the top 25 holders will attend a reception with Trump before the dinner. The way it works is that they will track who owns the most $TRUMP between April 23 and May 12 to determine who gets the invites. 

    Oh my goodness, I just realized something. This will create buying pressure right when Trump needs it to liquidate his holdings. What a coincidence. Someone alter the President. He probably does not realize this would be a great time to sell right as his lock ups are expiring. How fortuitous. 

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    due process

    in Non Wrestling Topics

    Posted

    6 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

    That's usually how it works. It just lacks the formality, which comes later, but in most cases a state bar association recommending disbarment is pretty serious. They wouldn't do that unless they felt like there were serious ethical rules broken, or other problems. In Eastman's case, what he did was so breathtakingly stupid, and then instead of apologizing he doubled down, they aren't left with much choice. 

    But do you agree that someone could truthfully say that he hasn’t been disbarred, because, well, he hasn’t been?

    due process

    in Non Wrestling Topics

    Posted

    21 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

    Everybody is entitled to the same due process under the Constitution if they're charged with a crime.

    I notice that you include the qualification “if they’re charged with a crime.”  While waiting for your reply, John Yoo was on saying that illegal immigrants do not get the same level of due process, and not the same “beyond reasonable doubt” requirement for criminal trials of citizens.  So, are you saying that they only get a limited amount of due process for immigration status proceedings?

    due process

    in Non Wrestling Topics

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    3 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

    It wasn't though! That order is still in effect. So, due process was violated! 

    The most conservative Supreme Court in our modern history ruled 9-0 on this.

    Truth is, they ruled that he should be deported, just not to El Salvador.    Which can be easily mended. 

    due process

    in Non Wrestling Topics

    Posted

    3 hours ago, red viking said:

    almost none of which have law degrees

    Are you a mormon?  You don’t have to have a law degree to have an opinion on a legal issue.  Lawyers disagree on matters of law all the time.  Look at @VakAttack  He tends to agree with Lawrence Tribe and thinks that Donald Trump is always guilty of something, I tend to agree with Jonathon Turley and John Eastman, Trump is sometimes, often times, right.  

    due process

    in Non Wrestling Topics

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    9 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

    You don't know what the orders mean. 

    I know that the withholding is of the removal and not the order.  Withholding based on conditions - the conditions have changed - the order is in effect. 

    due process

    in Non Wrestling Topics

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

    You're just spouting off now about things you clearly don't understand and just saying things should be the way you want them to be, not how they are.

    Clearly, you’re projecting.  I listed a few of the points indicating that the man has had due process, you, a lawyer, have claimed he had none. 

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