boconnell

It's gross what people in authority will do or will allow to be done. It's gross that in sports so many people in authority will ignore gross stuff to avoid upsetting a winning program. It's gross that wrestling is like other sports and other places where authority is abused.

I never mentioned Sanderson. I mentioned David Carr being disparaged for zero reason.

Intention or not you definitely did.

What reality?

Get out of here. People are people with or without Jesus. Christians and other religious people have a ton of hypocrisy, just like everybody else. It's fine to laugh at the comeuppance of someone who pretended to something they aren't, but it's pretty sad to start lobbing stuff at David Carr because you don't like how Aaron Brooks or Snyder have lived. Like somehow attending a completely different university but daring to be friendly with other wrestlers is some indication of a problem. Also it's hilarious that you think public shows of religion is a USA thing.

Get out of here. An attention starved but ultra hard working and committed guy with tons of talent is a dream compared to most young men a coach could hope to be responsible for.

What season is that for Spencer? 2021 was his only undefeated title and he won 12 matches total and he didn't have a pin at Nationals. Spencer was incredible but I'm not seeing how you think his best season is much better than Robles' best.

Obviously guys clash heads. You can even claim it's with intent. That doesn't come close to making it a headbutt.

We don't allow anybody to be headbutted in the face. That's some serious hyperbole. A shot is nothing like a headbutt.

This can't be a serious topic.

I think it's a guarantee that great 76 KG guys would be great at 65 KG if they were naturally smaller. There is no significant difference in the wrestling. We aren't talking about heavyweights and lightweights. These guys do the same stuff. We're talking about a few dozen medalists in each weight class over 20 years. It's not a long shot for a few guys in one weight to just be better at wrestling than anybody was in the other weight. At the elite level it's a tiny world with very few guys. Like I said, 1 guy being a different size changes the entire dynamic of how these stats look.

It's a small sample size. One great wrestler in a weight or one fewer great wrestler in a weight completely changes analysis like this. If JB is a couple of inches shorter we are asking why the USA is so great at 65 KG. It's too small of a sample size to reach some of the conclusions we are trying to reach.

If it was mostly about other countries having better smaller athletes, then we would do worse at 57 and 61. I think it's a relatively small sample size at a super high elite level and it allows for an outlier like this.

I think a few young guys being crazy successful early makes people think that's what's supposed to happen. But if the golden generation just concluding is headlined by JB/Snyder/Dake/Taylor then it's 50/50 on precocious phenoms and guys who hit their stride in their mid to late 20s. So while it's very unlikely for any wrestler of any age to match those guys, someone being 25 doesn't remove them from the conversation.