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2 hours ago, Konquest said:

Bryce Brill?

I believe Brill went to Northwestern after high school.

I recently had a family member get caught up in this exact same scenario.  All moral judgements and ethical questions aside, KS is going to end up registering on a list that will more than likely prevent him from being around a lot if places.  I would imagine clinics, schools, and you tournaments are out of the equation.  Depending on what USA wrestling decides to do he may not be able to compete at SR level events.  Is there any precedent for this scenario?  How does NLWC respond?

Effectively, he has torpedoed his wrestling career for the foreseeable future unless he has some Cornell level lawyers in his back pocket.  Truly a disappointing development.   

Ten weights in close proximity to the college weights all I ask.  

JB's commentary on the cold spray is legendary 

6 minutes ago, Eagle26 said:

Sorry but I feel like Lazarev should’ve let Akgul have his moment

I think he did. he took his shoes off much faster, said a prayer, stood up and backed up a few steps giving Akgul center mat. At the end of the day its Lazarev's moment too; he shouldn't have to sacrifice his oppertunity to end his career on his own terms 

Zhamalov’s run just doesnt pass the smell test.  sus af

Enjoy this fellas; i truly believe this is Dake's last match. 

Looks like Izzy brought his own gold medal! 

Just now, Gus said:

What was wrong with Snyder conditioning in that match?

looked like he was sucking air pretty hard after the break, but overall our gas tanks seemed to be more shallow than what ive been used to seeing us against the world 

the mens team's conditioning is trash

2 minutes ago, Eagle26 said:

I think we never even got to see the best Gable could be. The dude took down Geno three times in like 20 seconds… I’d say his offense is pretty dynamic. Imagine if he was training freestyle full time… I think he would have been dominant 

Gable was awesome with his down blocking, running the hip, re attack were insane.  His offense was would class eltie. 

Its the most frustrating thing about Gable is we will never know how high ceiling was going to be. What if he committed to his nutrition and training? 

1 minute ago, bnwtwg said:

I do not believe Gable would beat this version of Zare. He's smaller and his offense is not dynamic enough. This pains me as a known hater of greco dancing bears.

In short i agree with you.

I would love to think a Gable loss here would motivate him to go absolutely all in with his training and make some adjustments, but ultimately I dont think he would be able to match Zare's toughness.  

Zare and Gable would have been storied rivalry.  What fun that could have been us fans.

tons of credit to Japan for having great tactics.  They obviously knew they could get to the low single, and then defended the chest wrap fantastically.  

He looked like he wanted to wrestle a folkstyle match.  He gassed himself with all of those straight on shot attempts.  When are we going to learn that shot volume doesn't mean shit at this level and controlling center is everything? 

Our young buck's inexperience is really showing this week. 

I'm home on workman's comp after tearing my calf the second to last practice of the year so i didn't have to justify taking off work to the wife this year! 

16 hours ago, WildTurk said:

Any parents or coaches on here interact with him?

I have many times.  He has been the official during many lower level events I've coached in the past.  I have also had extended conversations with him while he was recording matches at the state tournament.  I cant even begin to explain how filthy i feel knowing i was standing next to this animal as he had his camera rolling.  Like most monsters in the world i never suspected a thing and was actually grateful we had somebody in the community recording and uploading so much footage.

13 hours ago, Caveira said:

Is he An ihsa ref?

he was an (awful) IHSA ref for a few years.  I never saw him work anything higher than freshmen or jv.  I do remember he was pretty bad and did not have a great handle on the rules.  In fact, i knew if i took him to the table to ask for clarification of a call he would falter pretty badly.  

The freshmen coach when I entered high school was named Matt Fish.  I razzed him relentlessly about it before I was moved up to varsity practice a few weeks into the season.  

On 5/15/2023 at 5:48 AM, CementMixer said:

Chittum would major Voinovich.

Based on what?

33 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

NJ	CA	IL	NY	OH
Patrick Glory	Liam Cronin	Matt Ramos	Anthony Noto	Dylan Shawver
Michael Colaiocco	Aaron Nagao	Michael McGee	Vito Arujau	Lucas Byrd
Joey Olivieri	Jesse Vasquez	Danny Pucino	Jordan Titus	Allan Hart
Shayne Van Ness	Kyle Parco	Austin Gomez	Yianni Diakomihalis	Mitch Moore
Michael Pettite	Chase Saldate	Austin O'Connor	Jacori Teemer	Bryce Andonian
Shane Griffith	Izzak Olejnik	Dean Hamiti	Tanner Cook	David Carr
Mekhi Lewis	Aaron Olmos	DJ Shannon	John Worthing	Rocky Jordan
Brian Soldano	Trey Munoz	Abe Assad	Jon Loew	Kaleb Romero
Jacob Cardenas	Bernie Truax	Jacob Warner	Lou DePrez	Luke Geog
Lewis Fernandes	AJ Nevills	Tony Cassioppi	Sam Schuyler	Daniel Bucknavich
IN	IA	MI	MN	WI
Jacob Moran	Drake Ayala	Jack Medley	Pat McKee	Eric Barnett
Jesse Mendez	Kyle Biscoglia	Rayvon Foley	Derrick Cardinal	Dylan Koontz
Cayden Rooks	Cael Happel	Casey Swiderski	Jake Bergeland	Caleb Gross
Graham Rooks	Michael Blockhus	Kevon Davenport	Maxwell Peterson	Blaine Brenner
Brayton Lee	Cobe Siebrecht	Derek Gilcher	Peyton Robb	Garrett Model
Joe Lee	Austin Yant	Cameron Amine	Patrick Kennedy	Keegan O'Toole
Donnell Washington	Cade DeVos	Manny Rojas	Bailee O'Reilly	Peyton Mocco
Sam Schroeder	Marcus Coleman	Neil Antrassian	Bennett Berge	Parker Keckeisen
Thomas Penola	Tanner Sloan	Max Dean	Trey Rogers	Stephen Buchanan
Mason Parris	Tyrell Gordon	Trent Hillger	Greg Kerkvliet	Garrett Joles
VA	CO	FL	GA	MA
Killian Cardinale	Malik Heinselman	Michael DeAugustino	Kyle Golhoffer	Max Leete
Erik Roggie	Dominick Serrano	Nic Bouzakis	Julian Farber	Hunter Adrian
Collin Gerardi	Andrew Alirez	Tom Crook	Tyler Lamon	Trevor Nugent
Marshall Keller	Dylan Martinez	Zach Sherman	Caleb Henson	Nic Botello
Nick Sansone	Daniel Cardenas	Anthony Artalona	Charlie Darracott	Cesar Alvan
Domonic Baker	Cody Eaton	Julian Ramirez	Will Formato	Brevin Cassella
Jackson Turley	Ryan Moltz	Jonathan Conrad	Matthew Singleton	Phillip Conigliaro
Hunter Bolen	Matt Finesilver	Leonard Tarantino	Gavin Kane	Owen Ayotte
Andy Smith	Xavier Vasquez	Jesse Martinez	Jaxon Smith	Austin Cooley
Jessie Knight	Cohlton Schultz	Ben Goldin	Jonathan Chesser	Will Jarrell
TX	UT	WA	AZ	INTL
Braxton Brown	Garrett Ricks	Brandon Kaylor	Brandon Courtney	Yusief Lillie
Kobe Nelms	Taylor Lamont	Haiden Drury	Roman Bravo-Young	Ramazan Attasauov
Tagen Jamison	Brock Hardy	Justin Hoyle	Beau Bartlett	Lachlan McNeil
Isaiah Delgado	Drew Lang	Mason Phillips	Mykey Ramos
Daniel Manibog	Terrell Barraclough	Tanner Craig	Bobby Groves	Munkhtulga Zuunbayan
Tyler Brennan	Cole Moody	Frank Almaguer	Rene Fragoso	Adam Thompson
Elise Brown Ton	Mason Christiansen	John Knight	Diego Chavez
Branson Britten	Jacob Armstrong	Jackson McKinney	Tanner Mendoza
Aidan Conner	Owen Pentz	Matthew Weinert	Elijah Sobas	Yonger Bastida
Mason Ding	Kade Carlson	Tate Orndorff	David Palosika	Yaraslau Slavikouski

I don't give a damn if he grew up in New Mexico; Real Woods lived and wrestled all four years in Illinois.  He belongs to us!

Conversely DJ Shannon wrestled in Missouri during high school I do not claim him. 

29 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Austin Gomez?

Oh dang I totally forgot about him!  The Illinois line up just got a lot more fun to watch!

2 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Desanto at 133

Jason Nolf at 157

Vincenzo Joseph at 165

I understood this as an all star lineup based on current athletes and not an all time line up.  I reckon if it is the latter then everyone's list will look a bit different.  

11 minutes ago, PencilNeck said:

 

I like Zac Braunagel's prospects in challenging for the 197 spot in this lineup. He had an identical dual meet record to Warner (9-4) this year, but a key difference is that Braunagel started every Illini dual, while Warner sat out a few (including vs Wisconsin where Iowa took a loss at 197 and had to squeak by on criteria). Zach also had a better conference dual record, and won head to head against Warner in the dual vs Iowa.

I like your argument and wouldn't disagree if you went ZB over JW.  I put Warner in the lineup based on his more extensive resume.   

Illinois using this past season's rosters

125- Matt Ramos

133-Michael McGee

141-Real Woods

149-Yahya Thomas

157-AOC

165-Dean Hamiti

174- Donnell Washington (lived in Indiana but went to high school in Illinois)

182-Abe Assad 

197-Jacob Warner

285- Big Cass 

that is a pretty solid lineup!!

2 hours ago, ionel said:

In these hear new times saving redshirts ain't a thing, if you are ready then wrestle.  Plus the portal is out there, there more coin out there if you do some improving in the room.  Why invest coach'n and practice partners and such to just have a kid take off for greener mats, if he ready - get him in the lineup.

I hear ya.  It might be prudent to wrestle him right away to get something out of him because history has shown BT has no problem bailing for greener pastures.  He went through three of four high schools so I have no faith he'll stay at OSU for the long haul.