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Yep - he returned for 2 matches and then forfeited out. Lost 1-0 to Truax in the semis after that 14-2 win. That and Valencia's unfathomable 9-2 loss to the # 6 seed (Wills) and it's no wonder ASU is currently in 4th place in the team standings.

2023 PAC 12 wrestling tournament first round matchups: 125 lbs # 5 seeded Jeremian Reno (LR) vs. # 4 seeded Antonio Lorenzo (CP) - Winner to face # 1 seed Brandon Courtney (ASU) – Reno & Lorenzo did not wrestle each other this season # 3 seeded Nico Provo (STA) vs. # 6 seeded Eddie Flores (CSB) – Winner to face # 2 seed Brandon Kaylor (OSU) – Provo beat Flores 9-5 this season in the Stanford vs CSB dual 133 lbs # 5 seeded Jackson DiSario (STA)) vs. # 4 seeded Ethan Rotondo (CP) - Winner to face # 1 seed Michael McGee (ASU) – Rotondo beat DiSario 8-2 in the dual between Stanford and Cal Poly # 3 seeded Chance Rich(CSB) vs. # 6 Joshua Sarpy (LR) – Winner to face # 2 seed Jason Shaner (OSU) – Rich and Sarpy did not wrestle each other this season 141 lbs # 5 seeded Angelo Martinoni (CSB) vs. # 4 seeded Jason Miranda (STA) - Winner to face # 1 seed Cleveland Belton (OSU) – Miranda beat Martinoni by MD (9-0) in the CSUB vs Stanford dual this season # 3 seeded Emilio Ysaguirre Jr ( ASU) vs. # 6 seeded Jaylen Carson (LR) – Winner to face # 2 seed Lawrence Saenz (CP) – Ysaguirre and Carson did not wrestle each other this season. 149 lbs # 5 seeded Josh Brown (CSB) vs. # 4 seeded Joseph Bianchi (LR) - Winner to face # 1 seed Kyle Parco (ASU) – Bianchi won by FALL (2:15) over Josh Brown in the CSUB vs. Little Rock dual this season # 3 seeded Dom Demas (CP) vs. # 6 seeded Riley Gurr (OSU) – Winner to face # 2 seed Jaden Abas (STA) – Demas beat Gurr 3-2 in the Cal Poly vs OSU dual this season 157 lbs # 5 seeded Maxwell Wilner (ASU) vs. # 4 seeded Matthew Bianchi (LR) - Winner to face # 1 seed Daniel Cardenas (STA) – Bianchi beat Wilner 4-3 in the Little Rock vs. Arizona State dual this season # 3 seeded Isaiah Crosby (OSU) vs. # 6 seeded Brock Rogers (CSB) – Winner to face # 2 seed Luka Wick (CP) – Crosby beat Rogers by FALL (0:29) this season in the CSUB vs Oregon State dual 165 lbs # 5 seeded Tony Negron (ASU) vs. # 4 seeded Tyler Brennan (LR) - Winner to face # 1 seed Matt Olguin (OSU) – Brennan beat Negron 5-0 in the Little Rock vs ASU dual this season # 3 seeded Legend Lamer (CP) vs. # 6 seeded Braden Smelser (CSB) – Winner to face # 2 seed Shane Griffith (STA) – Lamer beat Smelser 13-2 this season in the dual between Cal Poly ans CSUB 174 lbs # 5 seeded Brawley Lamer (CP) vs. # 4 seeded Albert Urias (CSB) - Winner to face # 1 seed Mateo Olmos (OSU) - Urias beat Lamer 7-3 in the Cal Poly vs CSUB dual this season # 3 seeded Cael Valencia (ASU) vs. # 6 seeded Triston Wills (LR) – Winner to face # 2 seed Tyler Eischens (STA) – Valencia beat Wills 5-1 in the dual between Little Rock and Arizona State this season 184 lbs # 5 seeded Mason Diel (LR) vs. # 4 seeded Brook Byers (STA) - Winner to face # 1 seed Trey Munoz (OSU) – Byers beat Diel this season by MD (19-6) in the dual between Little Rock and Stanford # 3 seeded Jarad Priest (CP) vs. # 6 seeded Jacob Hansen (CSB) – Winner to face # 2 seed Anthony Montalvo (ASU) – Priest beat Hansen 11-6 this season in the Cal Poly vs. CSUB dual this season 197 lbs # 5 seeded Mateo Morales (CSB) vs. # 4 seeded Kordell Norfleet (ASU) - Winner to face # 1 seed Bernie Truax (CP) – Norfleet and Morales did not wrestle each other this season # 3 seeded Nick Stemmet (STA) vs. # 6 seeded Matthew Weinert (LR) – Winner to face # 2 seed Tanner Harvey (OSU) – Stemmet and Weinert did not wrestle each other this season 285 lbs # 5 seeded Peter Ming (STA) vs. # 4 seeded Josiah Hill (LR) - Winner to face # 1 seed Cohlton Schultz (ASU) – Ming and Hill wreslted each other twice this season. In the first match on Jan. 1, 2023, Hill won 5-2 at the Southern Scuffle tournament. In the second match, in the Stanford vs Little Rock dual Ming won 5-1 on Jan. 28, 2023 # 3 seeded J. J. Dixon (OSU) vs. # 6 seeded Jake Andrews (CSB) – Winner to face # 2 seed Trevor Tinker (CP) – Dixon and Andrews did not wrestle each other this season

That was all ifs and maybes and coulds. I was looking for something more definitive than that.

I would think that if Norfleet is going to be their guy at 197 lbs for the tournament that there would have been something about that on the ASU wrestling website or at the very least on the ASU wrestling twitter page. But there is nothing about him competing on either of those two websites.

That is what is listed on the brackets on TrackWrestling but I have not seen it anywhere else. However Norfleet is actually listed on the TW bracket as the # 4 seed - not # 5. And his first round opponent is the # 5 seed Mateo Morales of CSB. Assuming Norfleet wins that match he would then wrestle the # 1 seed Bernie Truax of Cal Poly. https://www.trackwrestling.com/predefinedtournaments/MainFrame.jsp?newSession=false&TIM=1677935276011&pageName=%2Fpredefinedtournaments%2FBracketViewer.jsp&twSessionId=vhedyqqbdg The PAC 12 Wrestling Championship Central webpage still is listing ASU's Josh Nummer as the # 5 Seed vs. the # 4 Seed Mateo Morales of CSB. https://pac-12.com/2023-pac-12-wrestling-championships

POSSIBLE 2023 PAC 12 TOURNAMENT 2nd ROUND MATCHUPS 125 lbs # 1. Brandon Courtney (ASU) vs. either # 5 seeded Jeremiah Reno (LR) of # 4 seeded Antonio Lorenzo (CP) – Courtney beat Reno by MD (16-8) – Courtney and Lorenzo did not wrestle each other this season. # 2. Brandon Kaylor vs. either # 3 seeded Nico Provo (STA) or # 6 seeded Eddie Flores (CSB) – Kaylor beat Provo & Flores by identical 3-2 scores. 133 lbs # 1. Michael McGee (ASU) vs. either # 4 seeded Ethan Rotondo (CP) or # 5 seeded Jackson DiSario (STA). McGee beat Rotondo 14-7 and beat DiSario by TF (17-2) # 2. Jason Shaner (OSU) vs. # 3 seeded Chance Rich (CSB) or # 6 seeded Joshua Sarpy (LR). Shaner beat Rich 3-2 & 8-6 and beat Sarpy 19-12 141 lbs # 1. Cleveland Belton (OSU) vs. either # 4 seeded Jason Miranda (STA) or # 5 seeded Angelo Martinoni (CSB) – Belton beat Miranda 7-2 and beat Martinoni 4-2 # 2. Lawrence Saenz (CP) vs. either # 3 seeded Emilio Ysaguirre (ASU) of # 6 seeded Jaylen Carson (LR) – None of these three have competed against each other this season. 149 lbs # 1. Kyle Parco (ASU) vs. either # 4 seeded Joseph Bianchi (LR) or # 5 seeded Josh Brown (CSB). Parco beat Bianchi by TF (20-2) and beat Brown by MD (10-1) # 2. Jaden Abas (STA) vs. either # 3 seeded Dom Demas (CP) or # 6 seeded Riley Gurr (OSU). Abas beat Demas 4-0. Abas and Gurr did not wrestle this season. 157 lbs # 1. Daniel Cardenas (STA) vs. either # 4 seeded Matt Bianchi (LR) or # 5 seeded Maxwell Wilner (ASU). Cardenas did not wrestle either one of these two this season. # 2. Luka Wick (CP) vs. either # 3 seeded Isaiah Crosby (OSU) or # 6 seeded Brock Rogers (CSB). Wick beat Crosby 3-0 and beat Rogers 4-2 this season. 165 lbs # 1. Matthew Olguin (OSU) vs. either # 4 seeded Tyler Brennan (LR) or # 5 seeded Tony Negron (ASU). Olguin beat Brennan 4-0 and beat Negron by TF (18-3) this season. # 2. Shane Griffith (STA) vs. either # 3 seeded Legend Lamer (CP) or # 6 seeded Braden Smelser (CSB). Griffith beat Lamer 2-0 but did not wrestle Smelser this season. 174 lbs # 1. Aaron Olmos (OSU) vs. either # 4 seeded Albert Urias (CSB) or # 5 seeded Brawley Lamer (CP). Olmos beat Urias 3-1 and beat Lamer 13-6 this season. # 2. Tyler Eischens (STA) vs. either # 3 seeded Cael Valencia (ASU) or # 6 seeded Triston Wills (LR). Eischens lost 6-3 to Valencia and Eischens beat Wills 9-4 this season. 184 lbs # 1. Trey Munoz (OSU) vs. either # 4 seeded Brook Byers (STA) or # 5 seeded Mason Diel (LR). Munot beat Byers by MD (24-13) and beat Diel by TF (17-2 in 3:59) # 2. Anthony Montalvo (ASU) vs. either # 3 seeded Jarad Priest (CP) or Jacob Hansen (CSB). Montalvo did not wrestle either one of these two this season. 197 lbs # 1. Bernie Truax (CP) vs. either # 4 seeded Mateo Morales (CSB) or # 5 seeded Josh Nummer (ASU). Truax did not wrestle against either one of these two this season. # 2. Tanner Harvey (OSU) vs. either # 3 seeded Nick Stemmet (STA) or # 6 seeded Matthew Weinert (LR). Harvey beat Stemmet by MD (17-6) but did not wrestle Weinert this season 285 lbs # 1. Cohlton Schultz (ASU) vs. either # 4 seeded Josiah Hill (LR) or # 5 seeded Peter Ming (STA). Schultz beat Hill 4-2 and beat Ming by FALL (0:56) this season # 2. Trevor Tinker (CP) vs. either # 3 seeded J. J. Dixon (OSU) or # 6 seeded Jacob Andrews (CSB). Tinker beat Dixon 8-2 and won by FALL (2:07) over Andrews this season.

FIRST ROUND MATCHES FOR THE 2023 PAC 12 TOURNAMENT 125 - Jeremiah Reno (Little Rock) vs. Antonio Lorenzo (Cal Poly) - No match between these two earlier this season 125 - Nicco Provo (Stanford) vs. Eddie Flores (CS Bakersfield) - Provo beat Flores twice this season 6-1 & 9-5 133 - Ethan Rotondo (Cal Poly) vs. Jackson DiSario (Stanford) - Rotondo beat DiSario 8-2 earlier this season 133 - Joshua Sarpy (Little Rock) vs. Chance Rich (CS Bakersfield) - No match between these two earlier this season 141 - Angelo Martinoni (CS Bakersfield) vs. Jason Miranda (Stanford) - Miranda beat Martinoni by MD (9-0) earlier this season 141 - Emilio Ysaguirre (Arizona State) vs. Jaylen Carson (Little Rock) - No match between these two earlier this season 149 - Josh Brown (CS Bakersfield) vs. Joseph Bianchi (Little Rock) - Bianchi won by FALL (2:15) over Brown earlier this season 149 - Dom Demas (Cal Poly) vs. Riley Gurr (Oregon State) - Demas beat Gurr 3-2 earlier this season 157 - Matt Bianchi (Little Rock) vs. Maxwell Wilner (Arizona State) - Bianchi beat Wilner 4-3 earlier this season 157 - Isaiah Crosby (Oregon State) vs. Brock Rogers (CS Bakersfield) - Crosby beat Rogers by FALL (0:29) earlier this season 165 - Tyler Brennan (Little Rock) vs. Tony Negron (Arizona State) - Brennan beat Negron 5-0 earlier this season 165 - Legend Lamer (Cal Poly) vs. Braden Smelser (CS Bakersfield) - Lamer beat Smelser by MD (13-2) earlier this seson 174 - Albert Urias (CS Bakersfield) vs. Brawley Lamer (Cal Poly) - Urias beat Lamer 7-3 earlier this season 174 - Cael Valencia (Arizona State) vs. Triston Wills (Little Rock) - Valencia beat Wills 5-1 earlier this season 184 - Brook Byers (Stanford) vs. Mason Diel (Little Rock) Byers beat Diel by MD (19-6) earlier this season 184 - Jarad Priest (Cal Poly) vs. Jacob Hansen (CS Bakersfield) - Priest beat Hansen 11-6 earlier this season 197 - Josh Nummer (Arizona State) vs. Mateo Morales (CS Bakersfield) - No match between these two this season 197 - Nick Stemmet (Stanford) vs. Matthew Weinert (Little Rock) - No match between these two this season 285 - Josiah Hill (Little Rock) vs. Peter Ming (Stanford) - These two split two matches this season. Hill beat Ming on Jan. 1st 5-2 at a tournament and Ming beat Hill in their dual match 5-1 on Jan. 28th. 285 - J. J. Dixon (Oregon State) vs. Jacob Andrews (CS Bakersifeld) - No match between these two this season

What hasn't been mentioned here in this is Arizona State is trying to win their 4th straight PAC 12 championship. And they are trying to do that without Jacori Teemer, Kordell Norfleet and Jesse Vasquez. Having Yasguire at 141 lbs gives ASU a better shot at trying to accomplish that goal. Burning Ysaguirre's RS is irrelevant as nothing is being burned. He will still have a redshirt year to use. With Yasquire in the lineup ASU could win as many as 6 weight classes at the PAC 12 tournament - just as they did last season.

I have to agree with Idaho on this one. Ysaguirre replacing Vasquez makes total sense if Vasquez is not able to compete. It has nothing to do with his ability to get down to 133 lbs. After all Ysaguirre nearly majored the # 4 ranked guy in the country at 141 lbs just 10 days ago when ASU wrestled vs Nebraska. And as Idaho correctly points out Ysaguirre is not going to replace McGee at 133 lbs. Why would ASU even consider that? Why would anyone consider that?

Surprising to see Valencia as the # 3 seed behind Eischens and Olmos when Valencia beat both of them this season.

Sunday - and yes Stanford live stream is available to all. PAC 12 networks (all 7 of them) are available on Vidgo for $60 / month.

My guesses would be the following: 125 - Courtney vs Provo 133 - McGee vs Shaner 141 - Belton vs. Ysaguirre 149 - Parco vs Abas 157 - Cardenas vs Wick 165 - Griffith vs Olguin 174 - Valencia vs Olmos 184 - Munoz vs Montalvo 197 - Truax vs Harvey 285 - Schultz vs Tinker

According to what I saw here the NCAA transfer portal opens back up on March 9th - that being one week from tomorrow. And it will remain open for roughly 2 months until May 7th.

I know Vasquez didn't compete in ASU's last two duals vs Nebraska and CS Bakersfield but is there something definite that is 100 % certain that confirms that Vasquez won't be competing next Sunday? He hasn't competed officially since the dual vs. Oregon State on Feb. 5th where he beat Cleveland Belton 5-2. I'm just curious what lead to the conclusion that he won't be competing 1 month after he last competed. It certainly blows for ASU if he can't go. First they lose Jacori Teemer. Then they lose Kordell Norfleet. And now they appear to have lost Vasquez.

It's true that Griffith and Eischens were honored at this year's Senior night for Stanford. However Oregon State honored 8 of their guys last Sunday and only two of those eight have no more eligibility remaining. Namely Tanner Harvey (Grad student) and Aaron Olmos (2023 was his 6th season). The other six Oregon State guys all have eligibility remaining. So it remains to be seen if any of the other six will be back for 2024. One of those six was listed on the 2023 Oregon State roster as a RS Sophomore (even tho this was his 4th year of wrestling). And only one of the other six was listed on the Oregon State 2023 roster as a RS Senior. That being Jason Shaner. But the fact remains that six of those eight still have eligibility remaining.

I'm just wondering what informed Stanford fans think are the possibilities that Shane Griffith and Tyler Eischens might be back for the 2024 season as 6th year Seniors. Both are listed on the 2023 Stanford roster as RS Seniors and because of the extra year of eligibility from 2020 they would seem to have that option. If not at Stanford then elsewhere. Thoughts?

Griffith lost IMO because he has not put forth much effort in most of his matches this season and it finally bit him in the butt. His last eleven matches have all been decisions because he has been doing this "just enough to win" minimum effort routine.

I don't see Norfleet participating either. Guess I didn't see him listed earlier (I had had only 1 cup of coffee then). I'd be very surprised if he participates next Sunday. Last I read he won't be back this season but he might petition the NCAA for next season (which would be a 7th season for him by my count).

125 lbs - Pretty difficult to include Antonio Lorenzo of Cal Poly here as he has wrestled only one PAC 12 match this season and that was a 6-5 loss to ASU's Richard Figueroa on Jan. 20th. The starter for Cal Poly at 125 lbs since then has been Koda Holeman and Holeman has lost to Reno, Provo & Flores. 141 lbs - I would have Oregon State's Cleveland Belton at # 2 seed based on comparing his result vs. Jesse Vasquez against Saenz's result vs. Vasquez, i.e., Belton lost 5-2 to Vasquez and Saenz lost 7-3 to Vasquez 184 lbs - I would have ASU's Montalvo seeded above Byers based on their results against Munoz. But it's a tossup either way I think. 197 lbs - I would have Little Rock's Stephen Little as the # 3 seed as he beat Stanford's Nick Stemmet 7-5. Little & Weinert have been Little Rock's starters at 197 lbs since late January and Weinert has lost every match while Little has won every match. Other than that I'd say your projected Seedings are spot on. Good job here. P.S. Even tho Griffith lost yesterday to Olguin 3-2 - and as a result he absolutely should be the # 2 seed - I think the next time those two face each other the result will be different. Griffith has been expending minimum effort in most of his matches this season for reasons known only to him. Hopefully that loss teaches him a life lesson that doing just barely enough to win will occasionally get you exactly what he got yesterday. When you willingly choose to "play with fire" you occasionally will get burned.

Sunday's Probable Matchups (Rankings are from WrestleStat) I see this dual as having up to 6 matches that could go either way. It should be interesting to see how it plays out today. 125: #36 Nico Provo (STAN) vs. #22 Brandon Kaylor (OSU) Last two PAC 12 common opponents: #208 Koda Holeman (Cal Poly) - Provo beat Holeman 9-2 and Kaylor beat Holeman 11-4 #107 Eddie Flores (CS Bakersfield) - Provo beat Flores 9-5 and Kaylor beat Flores 3-2 133: #82 Jackson DiSario (STAN) vs. #41 Jason Shaner (OSU) Last two PAC 12 common opponents: #48 Ethan Rotondo (Cal Poly) DiSario lost to Rotondo 8-2 and Shaner lost 6-1 to Rotondo #4 Michael McGee (ASU) DiSario lost by TF (16-1 in 3:31) to McGee and Shaner lost by TF (17-2 in 6:31) 141: #67 Jason Miranda (STAN) vs. #52 Cleveland Bellton (OSU) Last two PAC 12 common opponents: #87 Angelo Martinoni (CS Bakersfield) - Miranda beat Martinoni by MD (9-0) and Belton beat Martinoni 4-2 #26 Jesse Vasquez (Arizona State) - Miranda lost 10-4 to Vasquez and Belton lost 5-2 to Vasquez 149: #18 Jaden Abas OR Luciano Arroyo (STAN) vs. #144 Riley Gurr (OSU) Last two PAC 12 common opponents: #20 Dom Demas (Cal Poly) Abas beat Demas 4-0 and Gurr lost 3-2 to Demas #90 Josh Brown (CS Bakersfield) Abas beat Brown 9-3 and Gurr lost by MD (16-7) to Brown 157: #8 Daniel Cardenas OR Charlie Darracott (STAN) vs. #62 Isaiah Crosby (OSU) Last two PAC 12 common opponents: #69 Luka Wick (Cal Poly) Cardenas beat Wick 6-2 and Crosby lost 3-0 to Wick #36 Charlie Darracott (Stanford) Cardenas has beaten Darracott three times this season (5-3, 6-4 in SV OT & 7-4) and Crosby beat Darracott 8-6 165: #3 Shane Griffith (STAN) vs. #18 Matthew Olguin (OSU) Last two PAC 12 common opponents: #60 Legend Lamer (Cal Poly) Griffith beat Lamer 2-0 and Olguin beat Lamer 7-5 in SV OT #1 #49 Tyler Brennan (Little Rock) Griffith beat Brennan 4-0 and Olguin beat Brennan 4-0 174: #27 Tyler Eischens (STAN) vs. #26 Aaron Olmos (OSU) Last two PAC 12 common opponents: #81 Brawley Lamer (Cal Poly) Eischens beat Lamer 8-3 and Olmos beat Lamer 13-6 #70 Albert Urias (CS Bakersfield) Eischens beat Urias 6-1 and Olmos 3-1 184: #103 Brook Byers (STAN) vs. #6 Trey Munoz (OSU) Last two PAC 12 common opponents: #107 Jarad Priest (Cal Poly) Byers lost 9-4 to Priest and Munoz beat Priest by FALL (4:35) #140 Mason Diel (Little Rock) Byers beat Diel by MD (19-6) and Munoz beat Diel by TF (17-2 in 3:59) 197: #37 Nick Stemmet (STAN) vs. #22 Tanner Harvey (OSU) Last two PAC 12 common opponents: #10 Bernie Truax (Cal Poly) Stemmet lost 9-5 to Truax and Harvey lost 7-5 to Truax #74 Jonathan Fagen (Arizona State) - Stemmet beat Fagen by MD (12-2) and Harvey beat Fagen by MD (14-4) 285: #75 Peter Ming (STAN) vs.#67 J.J. Dixon (OSU) Last two PAC 12 common opponents: #35 Trevor Tinker (Cal Poly) Ming lost by FALL (0:58) to Tinker and Dixon lost 8-2 to Tinker #61 Josiah Hill (Little Rock) Ming beat Hill 5-1 and Dixon beat Hill 5-4

I am now reading where it is alleged that the scale was not accurate and the first time he tried to weigh in it had him 1 lb over and then the 2nd attempt (he claims) was dead on 132. And now the Valencia's are - apparently - going to sue over this:

Thanks for the response. I hadn't seen that mentioned anywhere. I figured he must have gotten injured or was sick, etc. I know he qualified at 132 lbs but I checked 126, 132 and 138 looking to see if he was entered.

Anyone know why Aden Valencia is not competing at the 2023 CA State tournament? I know he qualified. But he's not listed among the entrants at 126 lbs (or 132 or 138.