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  1. 10 hours ago, Wildcat92 said:

    I had opportunities to continue my career after HS at some D3 schools, but by the time HS ended I was done.  The weight cutting was certainly a factor.  I knew a few guys that went to wrestle for those same D3 schools that weren't as successful in HS as I was and they had some moderate success, so looking back I could have been somewhat successful at that level, but my heart was no longer in it and I moved on.

    very similar experience for me far as being done with it, ops to wrestle at D3 level and maybe how I would have done. ended up going to a school w/ a D1 program (since cut) with no intention of being in the room. wrestled IM and actually got 'recruited' to join the team one year after a really good kid hung up the shoes early. I think the coach thought he might have a regular fft at 118, and probably saw my 'talent' saving the occasional team point or two. I said nope and they ended up with a good replacement anyway.  

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  2. 9 hours ago, Smsu150 said:

    Just guessing, but I know the 84 Olympic team had 4 Hawkeyes, but I'm not sure if they were all in college at the same time.  Maybe 1981. 

    Maybe Iowa State 1970.  

     

     

    I'd argue that Oklahoma same era had significantly better international success. Iowa had Banach bros, Lewis, and Davis with those '84 Games results and handful of other notable honors, but Oklahoma with Schultz brothers + Metzger, OU wins that international medal, teams made, etc. count handily. 

  3. 17 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

    1) Cody Brewer seeded at 13

     

     

    They didn’t seed everyone the year Cody won. I think the lowest # seed to win since they seeded 33 is 8. Mekhi Lewis, Shane Griffith, and Figueroa this past season.  

  4. The Mighty Dukes of JMU had 2 All-Americans total before the program dropped. Both were unseeded. Brian Kurlander finished 8th in '87 (beat the 8 seed and 9 seed to make quarters then beat 10 seed in blood round), Mike Coyle placed 8th in 2000 (little easier road by seed, beat 6 and 12 on the backside on way to AA).  

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  5. 8 minutes ago, Lunaticfringe said:

    Boise St had an amazing program at times. They had so many unseeded guys AA, in the 2000-2010 range they had some really tough a5letes. Greg Randall was a great coach and recruiter.

    no doubt and don't forget about 1999 as well, Kirk White champ and Larry Quisel with his insane run through the backside to get 3rd. 

  6. 4 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

    Hutton remains the only freshman UNL/275/285 to win a championship. It is noteworthy that it happened in the short window post WW2 where freshman were eligible and he did it as a 23 year old freshman. Though I am sure many of the guys he wrestled were of similar age.

    Only three others have made the final. John Witte for Oregon State in 1952 (and never wrestled again, moving on to football), Tommy Rowlands for Ohio State in 2001, and Steve Mocco for Iowa in 2002.

    Tommy Rowlands is a guy I think people overlook a little. Very good, very accomplished. 

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  7. 1 hour ago, Fletcher said:

    Up to 30 scholarships available, but schools still have to balance male with female scholarships in the aggregate.

    So it doesn't necessarily mean more for wrestling and could mean less - e.g. if the school wants to increase football scholarships, it may need to take them from wrestling to keep the overall balance between male/female scholarships.

    yeah football being able to have as many as 105 doesn't sound great for other men's sports

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  8. 3 hours ago, nhs67 said:

    I always was curious what would have happened had the 2xer Junior Sanderson had gone up to face fellow 2xer Senior McCoy at 197lbs a year earlier.

    It's a shame both went opposite ways for MFS.

     

    3 hours ago, nhs67 said:

    I always was curious what would have happened had the 2xer Junior Sanderson had gone up to face fellow 2xer Senior McCoy at 197lbs a year earlier.

    It's a shame both went opposite ways for MFS.

     

    2 hours ago, fishbane said:

    Who is McCoy? and which Sanderson are you talking about?

    yeah this one lost me a little

  9. 53 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

    Given the makeup of their current coaching staff, the Scarlett Knight fans over on their team forum seem to emphasize that the new candidate should meet a couple requirements:

    1) It should be someone who has personally experienced division one wrestling excellence as a wrestler (not just as a coach)

    2) It should be someone ideally who is an upper weight

     

    Given those asks, I've seen the name Kollin Moore thrown into the wish list.  I would ask myself why not J'Den Cox who just left his shoes on the mat?  And as a more under the radar option, maybe someone like Jordan Wood or even Greg Bulsak.

    Didn’t Cox just take a job with USA wrestling? 

  10. so many of those guys should be in, maybe all of them lol.

    Herbert has a world silver and the highest winning % on there so he seems like a good one to start with.

    Krieger was seeded #1 4 x so there's an extremely rare accomplishment in his favor. He also never lost a match outside the NCAA tournament. Plus he probably accounted for a good % of fellow single digit guy Heffernan's 18 career losses.

    impressive additional trivia type details for most / all these other guys as well. Tough group.    

  11. 58 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said:

    I watched the first match live. It was Awsome! I remember Schlatter had pinned his first 4 opponents all under a minute. Metcalf had 2 pins and 2 techs on his way to finals.  

    Interesting enough USA wrestling mag had them both ranked #1 in the country. Metcalf at 152. ( I guess they didn't get the memo he was staying at 145.)   Talk about a super match...

    They ended up being the USA team reps at 145 and 152 at the Dapper Dan that year, pretty cool:

    145: Brent Metcalf (USA) dec Matt Dragon (PA), 8-7

    152: Dustin Schlatter (USA) dec Joey Ecklof (PA) 5-2

    and fun fact, Dustin's older brother CP wrestled another Ecklof at same even a few years prior:

    145: C.P. Schlatter (USA) dec Jeff Ecklof (PA), 1-0

     

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  12. On 7/3/2024 at 1:02 PM, Camel Wrestling Fan said:

    Coaching jobs could be a premium soon. With the number of D1 teams forecasted to dramatically shrink due to college football needing all the money to pay players, it may advantageous for coaches to find stable programs and hang on to their position. 5 years from now there may only be college wrestling at 40 or so schools at the D1 level with D1 pay. Roster limits may also spread to coaching limits. You know player salaries will only esculate with no salary cap for paying players every school will be looking for every dollar they can to pay that top recruit or top transfer. The back pay will cause incredible pain at the lower level D1 programs that have D1 football. Yes, PSU, Iowa, tOSU and those of that ilk have enormous athletic budgets, but what about teams like Buffaloe, CMich, WVa, Wyoming (just schools I thought may not have super large budgets)? The back pay could cause a nightmare to try to back pay and pay the current players. So coaches should be consider stability when looking to move on with their careers.

    I hate that this could be spot on

  13. 18 hours ago, Kerouac said:

    I'm not old enough to have been around for the emergence of guys such as Cael, the Brands Bros., Kolat, etc. into college. Through miscellaneous interviews and articles I have heard stories such as Kolat at the Midlands in high school, but prior to the advent of social media, what was the national hype and opinions on these guys (and others) as recruits. Nowadays, with sites such as Flo, InterMat, and Instagram, everyone sees who the best are, where they train, where they compete, and their recruiting journeys. How was it back in the day though?

    as I recall Cael was less hyped than his teammate Joe Heskett. The Brands bros I don't think were that hyped.  Kolat was very hyped, the Midlands stuff, SI article, the backflip, and so on.  

  14. 6 hours ago, jchapman said:

    Ness' last NCAA season was 2010.  In the last ten years, I don't recall his international career full of entertaining highlights, but I could be wrong.  I think injury derailed his Olympic hopes.

     

    3 hours ago, fishbane said:

    Looks like his last competition may have been 2019 in Cuba.  Would be past 5 years now.  Still probably a little behind some of the other names mentioned in both international and NCAA success.  Definitely Askren and Herbert.

     

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    the last (only?) freestyle match I can remember watching for Ness was at the 2016 Olympic trials when he was up on Pico 9-0 and lost 10-9. crazy match. 

  15. 7 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

    And yet, the same athletes and the same coaches.

    The way I look at it is Mugsy Bogues had different moves, techniques, training protocols, and skills than Shaquille O'Neal, but they played the same sport.

    a Muggsy reference, nice

     

  16. 1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

    It is.  But App State is a better team and I was assuming Bassett isn’t going into the military, but who knows 

    I don't think going into the military is mandatory if you go to the Citadel. But then again why go to a military school if you have no intention of going that route?

    we also know of course he's not going to the Citadel

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