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All times Eastern, with local times in parenthesis. *-indicates event is believed to be eligible for a one-pound weight allowance. Wednesday, February 19: Penn at Rutgers, 6:00 PM Thursday, February 20: Kent State at Cleveland State, 7:00 PM Edinboro at Lock Haven, 7:00 PM Presbyterian at VMI, 7:00 PM Bloomsburg at Navy, 7:30 PM Friday, February 21: Columbia at Bucknell, 6:00 PM *Edinboro at Bloomsburg, 7:00 PM Michigan State at Central Michigan, 7:00 PM Indiana at Chattanooga, 7:00 PM Maryland at Drexel, 7:00 PM Brown at Harvard, 7:00 PM Arizona State at Lehigh, 7:00 PM American at Penn State, 7:00 PM Pittsburgh at Virginia, 7:00 PM NC State at Virginia Tech, 7:00 PM Northern Iowa at Wisconsin, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) California Baptist at CSU Bakersfield, 9:30 PM (6:30 PM) North Carolina at Stanford, 10:00 PM (7:00 PM) Saturday, February 22: Cleveland State at Rider, 12:00 PM Iowa State at Missouri, 1:00 PM (12:00 PM) *Bucknell at Cornell, 3:00 PM *Brown at Sacred Heart, 7:00 PM Northern Illinois at SIU Edwardsville, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) Sunday, February 23: Davidson at Wildcat Open, hosted by Davidson, 9:00 AM George Mason, Hofstra at Patriot Last Chance Open, hosted by George Mason, 10:00 AM Franklin & Marshall, Penn at F&M Invitational, hosted by Franklin & Marshall, 12:00 PM *VMI at Sacred Heart, 12:00 PM Wyoming at Cowboy Shootout, hosted by Wyoming, 12:00 PM Ohio at Buffalo, 1:00 PM Bellarmine at Chattanooga, 1:00 PM *LIU at Sacred Heart, 1:30 PM Binghamton at Army West Point, 2:00 PM American at Morgan State, 2:00 PM Arizona State at West Virginia, 2:00 PM Campbell at Appalachian State, 3:00 PM Cal Poly at CSU Bakersfield, 3:00 PM (12:00 PM) South Dakota State at North Dakota State, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Gardner-Webb at The Citadel, 3:00 PM Air Force at Northern Colorado, 4:00 PM (2:00 PM) Central Michigan at Michigan, 5:00 PM North Carolina at Oregon State, 5:00 PM (2:00 PM) Nebraska at Purdue, 6:30 PM Oklahoma State at Iowa, 8:30 PM (7:30 PM)

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There's never been anything about only getting the champ. The only time that was ever a going concern was in 2021, when a wrestler had to either have four matches prior to (or including) the conference tournament, or had to win their conference (not just earn an allocated spot). Remember Real Woods came in second in the Pac-12 that year, but didn't have enough matches until he wrestled an extra match later on that allowed him to be in the at-large pool. As far as the transition period, that's only that the conference is eligible for it, not that they automatically get it. Imagine if, in that sport that makes the NCAA (not the institutions) most of their money, Oregon State and Washington State simply played a one-game playoff in March, and the winner went to the tournament? That would be ridiculous. What you may remember was in 2015, the Big 12 had no automatic or allocated bids at all, and all 40 wrestlers participating in the championships had to go into the at-large pool. It was that summer that Air Force, North Dakota State, Northern Colorado, South Dakota State, Utah Valley, and Wyoming joined the Big 12 as wrestling affiliates.

Yeah, the effort that needs to be made is getting the ghost of Johnny Cochran involved, because if nothing else, the Cleveland State University students should be suing the pants off the university, as Jason Bryant mentioned above.

Sorry, thought I was in a different thread...

Lindenwood was never part of the MAC.

Literally none of what you just said is true: https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2018-02-22/ncaa-wrestling-qualifier-allocations-2018-championships-coaches And the waiver is only for one year, not two.

Nope...they're treated like every other conference. I'm old enough to remember the year the Big 12 got no allocated (or automatic) wrestlers at all for the NCAA Championships, and every single wrestler in the conference had to go through the at-large pool. Even Alex Dieringer had to be awarded an at-large that year...I'm sure that discussion didn't take very long at all.

If you have the RPI, you certainly have a better shot of hitting the threshold than the other two. If you're relying on both the CR and Winning Percentage, especially in the Big Ten, you better be a top 10-15 wrestler. (there are other conferences where this threshold is lower due to strength-of-schedule being weaker)

Top-20 Intermat-ranked guys who wouldn't have earned an allocation: 125: None 133: #1 Ryan Crookham (Lehigh), #13 Kai Orine (NC State), #19 Tyler Wells (Minnesota) 141: #15 Mosha Schwartz (Oklahoma) 149: #8 Ethan Stiles (Oregon State) 157: #3 Jacori Teemer (Iowa), #9 Trevor Chumbley (Northwestern), #17 Sammy Sasso (Ohio State), #19 Cobe Siebrecht (South Dakota State) 165: #9 Paddy Gallagher (Ohio State), #15 Cam Steed (Missouri) 174: #1 Keegan O'Toole (Missouri), #17 MJ Gaitan (Iowa State), #20 Josh Ogunsanya (North Carolina)| 184: #14 Dylan Fishback (NC State), #18 Ryder Rogotzke (Ohio State) 197: #12 Andy Smith (Virginia Tech), #15 Zach Glazier (South Dakota State), #19 Mickey O'Malley (Drexel) 285: None

Thief: wrestler who didn’t earn a bid during the regular season, but qualified for nationals through an allocated slot. Victim: wrestler who earned a bid during the regular season, but failed to qualify for nationals through an allocated slot, and has to go through the at-large process as a result.

And the winning percentage. 2-1 over these last three won’t cut it (and Askey, Chumbley, and Fish are no gimmies).

Teemer is going to need to win all three of his remaining matches or else he’s going to need to get onto either my police blotter or an at-large bid.

All times Eastern, with local times in parenthesis. *-indicates event is believed to be eligible for a one-pound weight allowance Monday, February 10: Hofstra at LIU, 7:00 PM Wednesday, February 12: Truett McConnell at Presbyterian, 6:30 PM Thursday, February 13: Kent State at Central Michigan, 7:00 PM Cleveland State vs. Lock Haven at Franklin, PA, 7:00 PM Lehigh at Penn, 7:00 PM Stanford at Princeton, 7:30 PM Friday, February 14: Bucknell at American, 6:30 PM VMI at Davidson, 7:00 PM Rider at Edinboro, 7:00 PM Bellarmine at Gardner-Webb, 7:00 PM *Stanford at NC State, 7:00 PM Virginia at North Carolina, 7:00 PM Penn State at Ohio State, 7:00 PM Maryland at Purdue, 7:00 PM Michigan State at Rutgers, 7:00 PM Ohio at SIU Edwardsville, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) Campbell at The Citadel, 7:00 PM Pittsburgh at Virginia Tech, 7:00 PM Wisconsin at Northwestern, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) Iowa State at South Dakota State, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) Northern Illinois at Cal Poly, 8:30 PM (5:30 PM) Wyoming at Air Force, 9:00 PM (7:00 PM) Iowa at Minnesota, 9:00 PM (8:00 PM) Northern Colorado at Utah Valley, 9:00 PM (7:00 PM) Little Rock at Cal Poly, 10:00 PM (7:00 PM) Saturday, February 15: Columbia at Harvard, 1:00 PM Arizona State vs. Cornell at Phoenix, AZ, 4:00 PM (2:00 PM) North Dakota State at California Baptist, 4:30 PM (1:30 PM) Sunday, February 16: Lock Haven at Mat Town Open II, hosted by Lock Haven, 9:30 AM Mercyhurst at JCU Open, hosted by John Carroll, 10:00 AM Stanford at Duke, 11:00 AM Rider at Clarion, 12:00 PM Drexel at LIU, 12:00 PM Michigan at Michigan State, 12:00 PM Bellarmine at Presbyterian, 12:00 PM *Columbia at Brown, 1:00 PM Binghamton at Buffalo, 1:00 PM American at Virginia, 1:00 PM Indiana at Nebraska, 1:30 PM (12:30 PM) SIU Edwardsville at Central Michigan, 2:00 PM Gardner-Webb at Chattanooga, 2:00 PM *Little Rock vs. North Dakota State at CSU Bakersfield, 2:00 PM (11:00 AM) Millersville at Franklin & Marshall, 2:00 PM Penn State at Illinois, 2:00 PM (1:00 PM) Northwestern at Iowa, 2:00 PM (1:00 PM) Iowa State at Northern Iowa, 2:00 PM (1:00 PM) Princeton at Penn, 2:00 PM The Citadel at VMI, 2:00 PM Davidson at Appalachian State, 3:00 PM *Oklahoma at Arizona State, 3:00 PM (1:00 PM) *Little Rock at CSU Bakersfield, 3:30 PM (12:30 PM) Navy at Army West Point, 4:00 PM Drexel at Hofstra, 4:00 PM Northern Colorado at Wyoming, 4:00 PM (2:00 PM) *North Dakota State at CSU Bakersfield, 5:00 PM (2:00 PM) Morgan State at Sacred Heart, 5:00 PM American at George Mason, 6:00 PM

Definitely not.