Iran wrestling news

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1 hour ago, shiraz321 said:

Japan sends the trial runner up to asians, you will see they have a totally different team between worlds and asians. They do the same for juniors also. I think it's a good way to let more guys get international experience. Russia also sends their trials runner up to euros. USA is wrestling pan ams which is a terrible continent for wrestling. 

Pan am's at the age level has largely turned into US vs other US guys that are representing Brazil or PR so often times they are matches that have occurred multiple times already in folkstyle.

[shiraz321]

6 hours ago, Undefeated said:

I think the way Americans train in folkstyle gives them an edge that carries over into freestyle. Folkstyle just has way more constant engagement - there’s way less downtime where you can just stand around and wait or handfight endlessly. So they grow up learning to wrestle non-stop, and that kind of pace wears our guys out.

Also, this whole “one coach makes all the calls for every weight” approach is outdated - especially at the senior level. They’re spending millions, so clearly there’s money. Why not bring in specialized coaches for each weight?

I don't think folk gives them an edge. I think, like us, they just have a lot of wrestlers and going off olympic medal counts they also produce the best athletes in the world. I mean we are talking about USA but they flopped in the Olympics also for mens freestyle. We flopped too with that ridiculous 3 silvers but not as bad as them. 

 

I think Iran's main problem is winning olympic freestyle golds. We have 3 olympic champs since 2000. 1 of those was due to half his weight class failing the drug test. We are now  at back to back olympics with no freestyle gold. That is really, really bad for a country that considers itself a major wrestling country. I don't like Dorostkar either. Guy randomly resigns a year prior to the Olympics then randomly comes back the year after. But it's not all his fault. 

 

As for the coaches, we have weight class coaches, Taghavi is is the coach for the lighter weights for example but yes they work under the federation and head coach. Difference is in the USA they mostly train at their own wrestling clubs with their own coaches for the majority of their preparation whereas in Iran they all train at the national camp almost year round. You can't take that system and put it in Iran because while the national camp is certainly an impressive facility, we only have one of those. They have comparable facilities throughout the country. 

 As for wearing guys out, not all their guys are like that. We  currently have and have in the past had guys like that too. Zare wears guys out. Firouzpour wears guys out and will likely be a world champ this year  even though he has a terrible style of wrestling. In contrast their 86 this year struggles to wrestle 6 minutes. I think that is more to do with the individual athlete.

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6 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

Pan am's at the age level has largely turned into US vs other US guys that are representing Brazil or PR so often times they are matches that have occurred multiple times already in folkstyle.

Yes, it's a shame Cuba's freestyle program is completely dead. They sent a 40 year old Garzan to the olympics last year. They must have cut what little funding they had to it.