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[Bulldozer Without Brakes]

Just now, Window12 said:

They create  new profiles as it aids in creating confusion and misinformation as they are initially not recognised - Regardless sooner or later will have to show their real hand.  It does at any rate feel like the end game for the regime . Khamenei was kept in place for 6 months, being fattened up for the right moment when he will be deposed with a comparatively orderly transfer of power to a secular government.

You guys have been calling it the end game for IRI for 45+ years already. I would like a secular government too, but this is for Iranians inside Iran to decide, no you, and the idea that a new secular democracy will peacefully and seamlessly emerge in Iran is borderline insanity. Revolutions are unpredictable. Did you learn nothing from 1979? 

And I already explained this is my only account on this forum. I speak to this forum's owner on X and he can verify this by checking my IP address. But please don't let facts get in the way of your narratives. 

[Window12]

8 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

You guys have been calling it the end game for IRI for 45+ years already. I would like a secular government too, but this is for Iranians inside Iran to decide, no you, and the idea that a new secular democracy will peacefully and seamlessly emerge in Iran is borderline insanity. Revolutions are unpredictable. Did you learn nothing from 1979? 

And I already explained this is my only account on this forum. I speak to this forum's owner on X and he can verify this by checking my IP address. But please don't let facts get in the way of your narratives. 

We are not deciding anything political on this forum-people of Iran are doing that via their protests. We were just discussing ramifications of political change for Iranian wrestling including women being allowed to wrestle. Why does this bother you so?

 

[Irani]

17 minutes ago, Window12 said:

They create  new profiles as it aids in creating confusion and misinformation as they are initially not recognised - Regardless sooner or later will have to show their real hand.  It does at any rate feel like the end game for the regime . Khamenei was kept in place for 6 months, being fattened up for the right moment when he will be deposed with a comparatively orderly transfer of power to a secular government.

But they are not very good at it, are they?

[Bulldozer Without Brakes]

11 minutes ago, Window12 said:

We are not deciding anything political on this forum-people of Iran are doing that via their protests. We were just discussing ramifications of political change for Iranian wrestling including women being allowed to wrestle. Why does this bother you so?

You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. I was merely challenging some of the claims about how all Iranians want regime change. Why does that bother you so?

Wouldn't want others to get the wrong ideas by letting your friend turn this wrestling forum into a political echo chamber and attack anyone with a different view by falsely claiming that they have multiple accounts, would we?

Edited January 11 by Bulldozer Without Brakes

[Irani]

Dear Genius/Undedeated/Bulldozer

you seem to forget that you as Undefeated already admitted to being th former Genius.  Just scroll back a few pages to find your post.

I value innocent human life.  If the protestors really harmed or killed innocent civilians, that is terrible and I condemn it.  I also condemn the murdur of all the innocent people by the regime.

the picture of the weapons captured by the government does not look too scary compared to the weapons your Basij friends are using.

These are definitely not peaceful protestors, they are putting their lives on the line for  better future.

 

[Window12]

28 minutes ago, Irani said:

But they are not very good at it, are they?

They will have to eventually give themselves away otherwise they will be completely ineffective in their propaganda-I think what they do has some effect in terms of pushing their narrative and propaganda but ultimately it will be futile as the regime has  powerful opposition inside the country in terms of unified downtrodden people and powerful enemies outside. This is not a fight they can win but in holding on to bitter end there will be more innocent blood lost.

the disrespect and entitlement is evident even in a forum based in western democracy- I think he just called the protesters fools and foreign agents…

 

[Bulldozer Without Brakes]

23 minutes ago, Irani said:

Dear Genius/Undedeated/Bulldozer

you seem to forget that you as Undefeated already admitted to being th former Genius.  Just scroll back a few pages to find your post.

I value innocent human life.  If the protestors really harmed or killed innocent civilians, that is terrible and I condemn it.  I also condemn the murdur of all the innocent people by the regime.

the picture of the weapons captured by the government does not look too scary compared to the weapons your Basij friends are using.

These are definitely not peaceful protestors, they are putting their lives on the line for  better future.

 

Dear Irani / Window12 

If @Undefeated said he was The Genius then he lied or was mistaken. I scrolled back and it seems your paranoia has been going on for many months, as you had asked if Undefeated was the same person behind The Genius, and he replied sarcastically to mock you for your paranoid schizophrenia.  I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well online.  Anyone in charge of this website can confirm we are two separate people. I am starting to think you and Window12 are the same person. 

If that collection of knives does not look "scary" enough to you, how about this:

Maybe you are OK with terrorists running around Iran with knives and guns and shooting at police officers. But most of us are not. We hope the security forces can neutralise these terrorists and restore order. And peaceful protestors should be allowed to continue to express their opinions unimpeded. This seems like a pretty non controversial position to take.

Edited January 11 by Bulldozer Without Brakes

[Irani]

Now hurry up and make a post as @Undefeated

[Bulldozer Without Brakes]

18 minutes ago, Irani said:

Now hurry up and make a post as @Undefeated

From his profile signature, it seems @Undefeated was banned. I assume banned accounts creating a new account to circumvent the ban is against the rules. I encourage the moderators/admins to investigate these claims by our paranoid dictator Irani / Window12 and ban me if his allegations are true. 

False accusations to shut down opposing views is the vision of democracy and free speech our resident dictator has to offer to freedom-loving Iranians. Beyond parody!

Edited January 11 by Bulldozer Without Brakes

[shiraz321]

Hey Genius, remember in 2023 on the old forum when you actually cried and had a mental breakdown because David Taylor beat Yazdani? Literally like 3 pages of the Iran thread on that old forum were you having a bizarre mental episode after their 2023 match. It's a wrestling match, relax. I was actually worried you would do something silly in real life that day with how crazy you got. This is the  typical IRI supporter ( Genius lives in the UK like me, maybe one day I can meet him?) who lives in the west. Truly bizarre people. Why did you run away to the UK, btw? You clearly have some beef with the western world, but you're paying taxes in England. Some of that could be going to support Israel. More importantly some of it could be going to destabilise Mr Khamenei. Surely you should return to Iran if you love the IRI so much?

 

Btw, you call people diaspora, remember on the old forum when you had to ask us to translate something in Persian for you to English because you couldn't actually read the language?  Its been a few years, I hope you spent a significant amount of that time learning the language. So it's not even fair for me to say you ran away. Your parents ran away, lol. Maybe you got bullied in school by some English kids and that's why you turned out weird and with a grudge, lol. Maybe you don't know this but if you have an Iranian dad then it will be no issue for you to get Iranian citizenship. Look into it. I think it would be healthy for you to experience a few years under the government that you bravely support from a distance and accept propaganda from without a second thought.

 

34 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

 

Maybe you are OK with terrorists running around Iran with knives and guns and shooting at police officers. But most of us are not. We hope the security forces can neutralise these terrorists and restore order. And peaceful protestors should be allowed to continue to express their opinions unimpeded. This seems like a pretty non controversial position to take.

That's a big claim. You are claiming most Iranians want this protest movement to fail. You incorrectly claimed someone here said all Iranians want regime change. Of course it is not possible for a government to literally have 0 support. But do you have a source to backup your incredible claim that the majority of the Iranian public wants these protests to be crushed and for the IRI to resume its business as usual? Did a poll come out that I missed? Did the IRI make it impossible to even make a domestic phone call because most of the public supports them? Haha, I must admit people like you are interesting. Personally I would have preferred Wrestfan came back from the old thread instead of a weirdo like you, but it is what is. I hope you can sort out your psychological issues. 

Edited January 11 by shiraz321

[shiraz321]

23 minutes ago, Irani said:

Now hurry up and make a post as @Undefeated

I don't think he's undefeated, unfortunately Genius is much dumber.  From the few posts I remember from Undefeated he seemed to hate the IRI as much as the USA. He actually probably made the first anti IRI post in this thread. Genius supports the IRI (from a distance). Undefeated was definitely a strange guy too, lol. 

[Irani]

I am sure in real life he is defeated , not undefeated

Genius resurfaced right after @Undefeated got banned.  Undefeated also loved to find low lives who hated Iranians on the forum and exchange insults with them

[Bulldozer Without Brakes]

9 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Hey Genius, remember in 2023 on the old forum when you actually cried and had a mental breakdown because David Taylor beat Yazdani? Literally like 3 pages of the Iran thread on that old forum were you having a bizarre mental episode after their 2023 match. It's a wrestling match, relax. I was actually worried you would do something silly in real life that day with how crazy you got. This is the  typical IRI supporter ( Genius lives in the UK like me, maybe one day I can meet him?) who lives in the west. Truly bizarre people. Why did you run away to the UK, btw? You clearly have some beef with the western world, but you're paying taxes in England. Some of that could be going to support Israel. More importantly some of it could be going to destabilise Mr Khamenei. Surely you should return to Iran if you love the IRI so much?

Btw, you call people diaspora, remember on the old forum when you had to ask us to translate something in Persian for you to English because you couldn't actually read the language?  Its been a few years, I hope you spent a significant amount of that time learning the language. So it's not even fair for me to say you ran away. Your parents ran away, lol. Maybe you got bullied in school by some English kids and that's why you turned out weird and with a grudge, lol. Maybe you don't know this but if you have an Iranian dad then it will be no issue for you to get Iranian citizenship. Look into it. I think it would be healthy for you to experience a few years under the government that you bravely support from a distance and accept propaganda from without a second thought.

That's a big claim. You are claiming most Iranians want this protest movement to fail. You incorrectly claimed someone here said all Iranians want regime change. Of course it is not possible for a government to literally have 0 support. But do you have a source to backup your incredible claim that the majority of the Iranian public wants these protests to be crushed and for the IRI to resume its business as usual? Did a poll come out that I missed? Did the IRI make it impossible to even make a domestic phone call because most of the public supports them? Haha, I must admit people like you are interesting. Personally I would have preferred Wrestfan came back from the old thread instead of a weirdo like you, but it is what is. I hope you can sort out your psychological issues. 

Where to begin with such an outpouring of mental illness? Your parents did not wash your mouth enough as a kid, it seems.

Pretty funny that I have lived in your head rent free for so long when I don't even know who you are, lol. Another regime change diaspora member with mental illness emerges. How many more of you are there? lol. You guys are not capable of rational discourse, any thuggish insults and attempts to bully opposing views. Precisely why you guys will only ever have social media revolutions and never visit Iran.

It is a shame, but we can't blame you for the failings of your parents. 

[shiraz321]

1 minute ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

Where to begin with such an outpouring of mental illness? Your parents did not wash your mouth enough as a kid, it seems.

Pretty funny that I have lived in your head rent free for so long when I don't even know who you are, lol. Another regime change diaspora member with mental illness emerges. How many more of you are there? lol. You guys are not capable of rational discourse, any thuggish insults and attempts to bully opposing views. Precisely why you guys will only ever have social media revolutions and never visit Iran.

It is a shame, but we can't blame you for the failings of your parents. 

Everything I said is true. Why are you getting so angry? Haha. Who do you think has spent more time in Iran, me or you?

Edited January 11 by shiraz321

[Bulldozer Without Brakes]

12 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

I don't think he's undefeated, unfortunately Genius is much dumber.  From the few posts I remember from Undefeated he seemed to hate the IRI as much as the USA. He actually probably made the first anti IRI post in this thread. Genius supports the IRI (from a distance). Undefeated was definitely a strange guy too, lol. 

Do not speak for me. At least you're a little bit less paranoid than your friend who thinks everyone who doesn't support US-backed regime change in Iran is the same person. I support the IRI only to the extent I do not support a violent revolution that could tear Iran apart. But you guys lack the capacity for any kind of nuance so anyone who doesn't support regime change falls into a monolithic bucket. Sad. 

Edited January 11 by Bulldozer Without Brakes

[shiraz321]

1 minute ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

Do not speak for me. At least you're a little bit less paranoid than your friend who thinks everyone who doesn't support US-backed regime change in Iran is the same person. I support the IRI only to the extent I do not support a violent revolution that could tear Iran apart. But you guys lack the capacity for any kind of nuance so anyone who doesn't support regime change falls into a monolithic bucket. Sad. 

Why can't I speak for you?  Everything I say is facts. You do live in the UK. You did ask us to translate for you. You did have a 3 page long mental break down over a wrestling match, haha. I have a good memory, bro. 

 

Listen, like it or not the end of the IRI ( and I don't think it will be these protests) will be violent. And like it or not the fantasy you have of the IRI defeating Israel or whatever and your rahbar triumphing isn't going to happen. The most likely future for Iran is the IRI continues to take losses abroad while they destroy the country until climate change wipes out whatever is left. Pretty cool you can watch it all happen from the safety of England, right? 

[Bulldozer Without Brakes]

2 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Everything I said is true. Why are you getting so angry? Haha. Who do you think has spent more time in Iran, me or you?

Considering I visit regularly and was last there a few months after your beloved Israel started bombing Iran and killed >1000 Iranians, and you think your opinion is more important than Iranians in Iran, probably me.

But it's irrelevant. You guys never want to discuss facts, just insults. I like to support all Iranians in person, regardless of their views, even Pahlavists in person are far more agreeable. But online you turn into strange uncivilised creatures incapable of rational discourse.

[Bulldozer Without Brakes]

1 minute ago, shiraz321 said:

Why can't I speak for you?  Everything I say is facts. You do live in the UK. You did ask us to translate for you. You did have a 3 page long mental break down over a wrestling match, haha. I have a good memory, bro. 

Listen, like it or not the end of the IRI ( and I don't think it will be these protests) will be violent. And like it or not the fantasy you have of the IRI defeating Israel or whatever and your rahbar triumphing isn't going to happen. The most likely future for Iran is the IRI continues to take losses abroad while they destroy the country until climate change wipes out whatever is left. Pretty cool you can watch it all happen from the safety of England, right? 

It's genuinely hilarious how little you know about me and how deluded you are.

Why would anyone "like" a violent regime change in Iran? You should ask the Syrians how that is going for them. 

IRI cannot defeat Israel while it is backed by the entire Western empire and should not devote Iran's entire existence to fighting Israel. Israel is a genocidal regime but it's not our fight. A bunch of religious fanatics should never be in charge of Iran. But they are. And they have their committed bloc of support. And the best path forward isn't one that risks a civil war. But that's for Iranians living inside Iran permanently to decide, not me, and certainly not you. 

[shiraz321]

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

Considering I visit regularly and was last there a few months after your beloved Israel started bombing Iran and killed >1000 Iranians, and you think your opinion is more important than Iranians in Iran, probably me.

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Haha, you "visit" regularly. That's cute. Does your maman bozorg tell you how much you have grown each time? The only country you have spent more time than me in is the United Kingdom Of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

My beloved Israel? I thought you wanted to speak facts? Can you show me evidence that I love Israel? Where is the proof? Who do you think has given more tax money to Israel, me or you? Unless you have been unemployed your whole life then I think the answer is clear. If anything I think I could make the claim you love Israel more than me. In practical terms you have given them more than me.

 

9 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

 

But it's irrelevant. You guys never want to discuss facts, just insults. I like to support all Iranians in person, regardless of their views, even Pahlavists in person are far more agreeable. But online you turn into strange uncivilised creatures incapable of rational discourse.

Everything I said about you is a fact. It's why you are raging so hard, lol. If you would like we can meet in London and I will buy you a beginner Persian book. You can impress Maman Joon next time you visit with all the new words you learned from it. Maybe I could even come over once a week and tutor you in Persian? 

 

Who's uncivilised? I'm just talking to you and you're getting upset for no reason. 

 

7 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

 

Why would anyone "like" a violent regime change in Iran? You should ask the Syrians how that is going for them. 

 

I never said you need to like it. I said that's what is going to happen. I have a great memory, as you can see. Maybe by then we will be on a different forum and you will have a different username. I'll remind you of this convo when it does. Don't worry. And the climate change wiping out the rest, too. You can sit back and enjoy it on BBC One. Or maybe ITV? What is your favourite channel on British television? What do you think about the TV license fee? Worth it?

Syria? Are they clamoring for Assad to come back? Let me know. He was a violent guy, too. Maybe not as bad as his dad, though. What business is that of yours, anyway? Do you also speak for all Syrians?

 

16 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

IRI cannot defeat Israel while it is backed by the entire Western empire and should not devote Iran's entire existence to fighting Israel. Israel is a genocidal regime but it's not our fight. A bunch of religious fanatics should never be in charge of Iran. But they are. And they have their committed bloc of support. And the best path forward isn't one that risks a civil war. But that's for Iranians living inside Iran permanently to decide, not me, and certainly not you. 

Haha, even the IRI supporter knows the game is up. The only point of his regime is creating misery for Iranians. It has been beaten from pillar to post all across the region, but they turn into lions when it comes to killing people domestically. Btw, how should Iranians decide it? How would you go about it? It's easy to criticise so I want to learn from you. Simply ask Khamenei to leave nicely? What is the path here? If a few people want to call each other in Iran to discuss the best way to kindly ask Khamenei to leave, can they do that or are all the phone lines cut? 

[Bulldozer Without Brakes]

18 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Haha, you "visit" regularly. That's cute. Does your maman bozorg tell you how much you have grown each time? 

No, but your maman bozorg tells me how big I am each time I see her.

18 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Who do you think has given more tax money to Israel, me or you? Unless you have been unemployed your whole life then I think the answer is clear. 

Weird way to admit you are either a recent refugee to the UK or unemployed, lol. Which is it?

18 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Everything I said about you is a fact. It's why you are raging so hard, lol. If you would like we can meet in London and I will buy you a beginner Persian book. You can impress Maman Joon next time you visit with all the new words you learned from it. Maybe I could even come over once a week and tutor you in Persian? 

You think this is me raging? Lol. Perhaps you can tutor me during your breaks from scaling the embassy or waving Israeli flags around Trafalgar Square to impress the locals as a recent refugee? I hope your hotel wasn't harmed in the recent riots.

18 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Syria? Are they clamoring for Assad to come back? Let me know. He was a violent guy, too. Maybe not as bad as his dad, though. What business is that of yours, anyway? Do you also speak for all Syrians?

None of my business. Just a cautionary tale for Iranians.

18 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Haha, even the IRI supporter knows the game is up. The only point of his regime is creating misery for Iranians. It has been beaten from pillar to post all across the region, but they turn into lions when it comes to killing people domestically. Btw, how should Iranians decide it? How would you go about it? It's easy to criticise so I want to learn from you. Simply ask Khamenei to leave nicely? What is the path here? If a few people want to call each other in Iran to discuss the best way to kindly ask Khamenei to leave, can they do that or are all the phone lines cut? 

Do you think rioters attacking fire trucks and paramedics and mosques are justified means of communicating political opinions? 

A referendum for Iranians to decide between the IRI and a form of monarchy or democracy would be my preferred solution. But there is no obvious path to that, no government sits by and lets a revolution happen. Especially not when Israel and the US are boasting about how their agents are involved on the ground. That's not how things work.

Are you waiting for the Shah's son to return? He just said his life is in America and he doesn't want to live in Iran. In reality nothing will happen until Khamenei dies. The opposition is much more fragmented than the IRI's supporters and too busy fighting each other / bending over for Israel. Once Khamenei dies the Larijani/reformist/clerical factions will probably fight each other for power and if we are lucky the younger generation in the IRGC will take over and prioritise their business interests over religious doctrine and change Iran's foreign policy and turn Iran into Russia. The alternative is another hijacked revolution that destroys Iran. But as you say, climate change will kill us all anyway, so why not play Russian roulette with Iran's future and hope for the best.

[shiraz321]

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

No, but your maman bozorg tells me how big I am each time I see her.

Weird way to admit you are either a recent refugee to the UK or unemployed, lol. Which is it?

Haha, so which is it? First you claimed that you probably spent more time in Iran than me and now a few moments later I am a refugee who got here yesterday by hiding under a truck. Which is it? It can't be both. I got out of Iran through my own hard work and talents. Your parents ran away to the evil west that you hate so much.  You now pay taxes into that system while roleplaying as an anti imperialist behind your computer. It's why you have an identity crisis. You don't  really belong anywhere.  You probably found wrestling because it was one of the few sports Iran is good at and you latched onto it because you want to feel some connection to a country you don't really have much to do with. The funniest thing is they didn't even bother teaching you to read Persian, you had to come to the guys on the old thread for the privilege to understand your parents language. I didn't know you at all back then but even then I thought it was kind of pathetic. I know Iranians who grew up here who at least were sent to take Persian classes. Why were your parents not interested in you learning the language? You seem like such a patriotic family, lol.

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

You think this is me raging? Lol. Perhaps you can tutor me during your breaks from scaling the embassy or waving Israeli flags around Trafalgar Square to impress the locals as a recent refugee? I hope your hotel wasn't harmed in the recent riots. 

Haha yes you are raging. Crying about my parents not washing my mouth or whatever haha bro go tell your parents that they forgot to teach you to read Persian lol. I never climbed any embassy, though that video was very funny. I hope it didn't make you cry as hard as you did after a certain wrestling match. 3 pages of just you posting in tears - I have never seen anything like it! The stigma on men seeking help for mental health is really sad. 

1 hour ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

Do you think rioters attacking fire trucks and paramedics and mosques are justified means of communicating political opinions?

 

Do you think the IRI has any motivation to paint those protesting as terrorists? Do you think people that burned a cinema down, kill teenage girls and will do literally anything to stay in power are above attacking a fire truck or mosque? Are you one of these people who has the comical opinion that a muslim would never attack a mosque?  You don't support the IRI, but you just happen to believe all its propaganda. At least its propaganda in English, you can't understand their Persian language propaganda. Maybe I can translate it for you? Lol. You need to thank god for the advancements in translation technology or you would truly be totally disconnected from Iran. 

 

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

A referendum for Iranians to decide between the IRI and a form of monarchy or democracy would be my preferred solution. But there is no obvious path to that, no government sits by and lets a revolution happen.

You said it's for Iranians to decide. Now you are agreeing with me that it's impossible to get to this point. Thanks. When you leave a society with no choices don't be surprised if ugly things happen occasionally. Of course, the regime is far more violent than the protestors could ever hope to be. 

 

1 hour ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

And the best path forward isn't one that risks a civil war. But that's for Iranians living inside Iran permanently to decide, not me, and certainly not you. 

So you are saying Iranians inside Iran do have the right to decide to have a civil war to overthrow the IRI? Why are you on here crying then? 

 

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

Especially not when Israel and the US are boasting about how their agents are involved on the ground. That's not how things work.

Are you waiting for the Shah's son to return? He just said his life is in America and he doesn't want to live in Iran. In reality nothing will happen until Khamenei dies.

No, I said the protests will not succeed. The regime is simply too violent and blood thirsty for any protests to succeed. This has been my opinion for years and unfortunately it has been proven right so far. Why are you arguing with yourself? By the way, how many of these American and Israeli agents are in Iran? Is it to the extent they had to cut the phone lines too? All the internet? Do you realise how damaging this is for the day to day running of the country? Maybe instead of crying about the protestors you should kindly your IRI to stop turning the country into a zoo. 

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

The opposition is much more fragmented than the IRI's supporters and too busy fighting each other / bending over for Israel. Once Khamenei dies the Larijani/reformist/clerical factions will probably fight each other for power and if we are lucky the younger generation in the IRGC will take over and prioritise their business interests over religious doctrine and change Iran's foreign policy and turn Iran into Russia. The alternative is another hijacked revolution that destroys Iran. But as you say, climate change will kill us all anyway, so why not play Russian roulette with Iran's future and hope for the best.

What's actually going to happen is the IRI will be bombed to hell by a foreign military. Violent regime overthrow is a long term certainty.  At that point there wont be much of a country left. Hope it was worth it for all the achievements of the past 50 years. You will be watching from behind your computer in the UK. Of course, Iran is also dying demographically. Really not a good thing to happen if you plan on defeating Israel! 

[Irani]

آقا شیرازی

ولش کن

این بابا مزخرف میگه

 

[Bulldozer Without Brakes]

35 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Haha, so which is it? First you claimed that you probably spent more time in Iran than me and now a few moments later I am a refugee who got here yesterday by hiding under a truck. Which is it? It can't be both. I got out of Iran through my own hard work and talents.

First you said I pay more taxes to this system than you do, now you say you moved to the UK because of your great talents. Apparently those talents don't extend to gainful employment that result in you paying taxes. lol. At least try to keep your story straight.

35 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Your parents ran away to the evil west that you hate so much. 

Oh man, you didn't leave your parents behind in Iran, did you? By the way, did you tell the Home Office you are a persecuted Christian or homosexual to support your refugee application? No shame in either, you can tell us.

35 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Do you think the IRI has any motivation to paint those protesting as terrorists? Do you think people that burned a cinema down, kill teenage girls and will do literally anything to stay in power are above attacking a fire truck or mosque? Are you one of these people who has the comical opinion that a muslim would never attack a mosque?  You don't support the IRI, but you just happen to believe all its propaganda. At least its propaganda in English, you can't understand their Persian language propaganda. Maybe I can translate it for you? Lol. You need to thank god for the advancements in translation technology or you would truly be totally disconnected from Iran. 

As I am an honest person capable of adopting nuanced positions, two things you can never say, I can recognise that the IRI has a motivation to portray protestors as violent terrorists. But there is plenty of evidence showing that a section of these protestors are armed and violent. They literally target solo unarmed police officers and kick them while they are laying on the ground, and justify it by saying they will not show us mercy, so lets not show them any mercy, and just brutally kill them.

All the propaganda you believe and espouse is in English, because the target audience is not Iranians but other people in the West to pave the ground for military intervention. But of course you can't recognise such things with a single digit IQ.

35 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

So you are saying Iranians inside Iran do have the right to decide to have a civil war to overthrow the IRI? Why are you on here crying then? 

I did not say that. Iranians have a right to decide their future but no one has a right to engage in armed insurrection. 

35 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

What's actually going to happen is the IRI will be bombed to hell by a foreign military. Violent regime overthrow is a long term certainty.  At that point there wont be much of a country left. Hope it was worth it for all the achievements of the past 50 years. You will be watching from behind your computer in the UK. Of course, Iran is also dying demographically. Really not a good thing to happen if you plan on defeating Israel! 

This is only possible because of mentally ill refugees like you who support foreign countries that they move to bombing Iran. In what other country do you see this behaviour? Cuban gusanos and Iranian Shahi diaspora are the only examples. 

Why don't you go join the protestors and help incite this civil war you want so badly? You are not going to depose the IRI from sitting behind your computer in the UK, after all. And you will be able to see some of your family that you left behind in the country you want to get bombed to hell. They miss their talented little refugee!

Edited January 12 by Bulldozer Without Brakes

[shiraz321]

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

First you said I pay more taxes to this system than you do, now you say you moved to the UK because of your great talents. Apparently those talents don't extend to gainful employment that result in you paying taxes. lol. At least try to keep your story straight.

Haha, I said you have been here your whole life. I would hope you have paid more taxes to the UK than I have. This is literally the only country you have ever known and will ever know. Learn to love it!

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

Oh man, you didn't leave your parents behind in Iran, did you? By the way, did you tell the Home Office you are a persecuted Christian or homosexual to support your refugee application? No shame in either, you can tell us.

Fortunately I have a skill set which enabled me to leave the country after completing my education. What's your problem with gay people and Christians? I'm neither of those things but it's all good with me. Bro it still doesn't change the fact that you can't read Persian haha. 

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

As I am an honest person capable of adopting nuanced positions, two things you can never say, I can recognise that the IRI has a motivation to portray protestors as violent terrorists. But there is plenty of evidence showing that a section of these protestors are armed and violent. They literally target solo unarmed police officers and kick them while they are laying on the ground, and justify it by saying they will not show us mercy, so lets not show them any mercy, and just brutally kill them.

So wait, is that the protestors doing that or the Israeli and American agents? Because if it is the protestors then they totally have the right to kill the thugs of the Islamic Republic. There is nothing morally wrong with being violent towards IRI thugs. You can say it won't work in the end, but that is a totally different argument. I couldn't care less about some Islamist goon getting kicked in the street. All of this is the IRI's fault. They pushed the country to this point. They can deal with the pushback. There are also videos in past uprisings of protestors saving regime thugs from the crowd. How did that work for them? 

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

All the propaganda you believe and espouse is in English, because the target audience is not Iranians but other people in the West to pave the ground for military intervention. But of course you can't recognise such things with a single digit IQ.

 

I disagree. Before this round of protests the Pro IRI propaganda was more effective in English due to it being accessed by English speaking leftists, Islamists,  isolationists and other groups that could be sympathetic to the IRI due to shared interests. I would still even say that the English language IRI propaganda machine is pretty effective. Where the IRI was actually losing the propaganda war was domestically and in Persian language social media. As you can't read Persian, you have 0 qualifications to give an opinion on this as you literally can't even follow half of the discourse. Too bad so sad for you. 

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

I did not say that. Iranians have a right to decide their future but no one has a right to engage in armed insurrection.

No, you literally said it is for Iranians inside the country to decide if they want to have a civil war but it's not the best path. Those are your words. So again, why are you crying when some of them make that decision? 

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

 

This is only possible because of mentally ill refugees like you who support foreign countries that they move to bombing Iran. In what other country do you see this behaviour? Cuban gusanos and Iranian Shahi diaspora are the only examples. 

 

Haha, how can a mentally ill gay Christian refugee who has somehow been in Iran for both more and less time than you bring down the mighty IRI to such a pathetic state to where even its supporters basically agree that it sucks. This is the funniest part of most modern IRI supporters. "The IRI sucks, but it should stay". Inspirational stuff. The revolution truly only grows stronger when even its own supporters hold it in such high regard.  They truly have nothing aside from causing misery to other Iranians. The IRI watched as Israel took out your axis of resistance one by one, bro! It took decades to build that and it went up in smoke! Go to Iran and do something about it! Is Israel also the reason you can't read Persian, or is that the fault of mentally ill gay christian transgender refugees? 

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

Why don't you go join the protestors and help incite this civil war you want so badly?

 

Why don't you go and fight Israel instead of hiding behind your computer in the UK? Why don't you go to Iran and join the Iranian military to stop American and Israeli agents from destroying the country. That is what you clam, right? They had to cripple their own country and take down the internet and make it impossible to even make a phone call due to the amount of chaos these foreign agents are causing? According to you the IRI is literally under a foreign attack with agents on the ground right now. Go do something about it. 

4 minutes ago, Bulldozer Without Brakes said:

You are not going to depose the IRI from sitting behind your computer in the UK, after all. And you will be able to see some of your family that you left behind in the country you want to get bombed to hell. They miss their talented little refugee!

 

Again, arguing with yourself. I never said the IRI was going to be deposed. I think they will survive this and continue pooping all over the country. I never said I want it to be bombed. I said it inevitably will be bombed. You have no arguments so you make stuff up. You're not smart enough to have this conversation with me. It would be a better use of your time to learn to read Persian (something you can't do).  We are close by to each other and I am willing patiently help you through it if you wish. End of the day, you can't really say anything to me. Your dad left Iran just like I left Iran and just like millions of others left your amazing Islamic Republic, lol. So nothing you say can ever carry any weight because we both know if you meant it then you'd have some big time animosity towards your own parents. You are just lashing out cause I embarrassed you  by stating some facts about who and what you are. There's no real impact to anything you say, lol. 

 

35 minutes ago, Irani said:

آقا شیرازی

ولش کن

این بابا مزخرف میگه

 

He had to use Google translate to read this, lol. Of course, back in the day on the USA Wrestling forum he would have asked me to translate it for him. I would have kindly done so. By the way, did I mention he had a mental breakdown after Taylor/Yazdani at 2023 worlds? Multiple pages of crying, haha. 

[Bulldozer Without Brakes]

30 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Haha, I said you have been here your whole life. I would hope you have paid more taxes to the UK than I have. This is literally the only country you have ever known and will ever know. Learn to love it!

I am probably a lot younger than you, and you are such a talented refugee, so you must have paid more taxes than me. When were you last in Iran? I told you I was there a few months ago, maybe next time I visit later this year I can say hi to your family for you. 

30 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Fortunately I have a skill set which enabled me to leave the country after completing my education. What's your problem with gay people and Christians? I'm neither of those things but it's all good with me. Bro it still doesn't change the fact that you can't read Persian haha. 

No problem with them at all. But Iranian refugees like you tend to claim to be one of those in order to get their asylum application approved, so just curious which one you are. No need to be defensive.

30 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

So wait, is that the protestors doing that or the Israeli and American agents? Because if it is the protestors then they totally have the right to kill the thugs of the Islamic Republic. There is nothing morally wrong with being violent towards IRI thugs. You can say it won't work in the end, but that is a totally different argument. I couldn't care less about some Islamist goon getting kicked in the street. All of this is the IRI's fault. They pushed the country to this point. They can deal with the pushback. There are also videos in past uprisings of protestors saving regime thugs from the crowd. How did that work for them? 

You left your family in Iran only to support such violence and bombing of Iran? Ruthless. Of course, you only support this killing from the safety of your computer in the refugee hotel in the UK, lol. Hope the rioters didn't set your hotel on fire. Stay safe, it's a bad time to be a refugee from the middle east right now. Let me know if you need any help. Iranians have to stick together no matter our political differences. 

30 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Haha, how can a mentally ill gay Christian refugee who has somehow been in Iran for both more and less time than you bring down the mighty IRI to such a pathetic state to where even its supporters basically agree that it sucks. This is the funniest part of most modern IRI supporters. "The IRI sucks, but it should stay". Inspirational stuff. The revolution truly only grows stronger when even its own supporters hold it in such high regard.  They truly have nothing aside from causing misery to other Iranians. The IRI watched as Israel took out your axis of resistance one by one, bro! It took decades to build that and it went up in smoke! Go to Iran and do something about it! Is Israel also the reason you can't read Persian, or is that the fault of mentally ill gay christian transgender refugees? 

Please keep up and stop lying, I am not a supporter of the IRI. It does not represent anything close to my ideal form of government. The Islamists hijacked the 1979 revolution since they made lots of promises of free electricity and no hijab etc and then consolidated power after Saddam invaded. The IRI have been largely incompetent and corrupt since then. But there are no unifying opposition figures and Iran's enemies have a strong interest in the balkanisation of Iran, meaning another revolution creates a severe risk of turning Iran into another Syria, which I don't think is worth the risk. All of these things can be true. You don't care about that, obviously, since you fled the country on a boat and now wait patiently for Trump and pals to bomb Iran to freedom. 

30 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Why don't you go and fight Israel instead of hiding behind your computer in the UK? Why don't you go to Iran and join the Iranian military to stop American and Israeli agents from destroying the country. That is what you clam, right? They had to cripple their own country and take down the internet and make it impossible to even make a phone call due to the amount of chaos these foreign agents are causing? According to you the IRI is literally under a foreign attack with agents on the ground right now. Go do something about it. 

Changed the subject very quickly, lol. You are the one that ran away from your country of birth and now cry online about how it has such an evil regime killing protestors. So why don't you go do something about it and free Iran? Don't deflect, lol.

30 minutes ago, shiraz321 said:

Again, arguing with yourself. I never said the IRI was going to be deposed. I think they will survive this and continue pooping all over the country. I never said I want it to be bombed. I said it inevitably will be bombed. You have no arguments so you make stuff up. You're not smart enough to have this conversation with me. It would be a better use of your time to learn to read Persian (something you can't do).  We are close by to each other and I am willing patiently help you through it if you wish. End of the day, you can't really say anything to me. Your dad left Iran just like I left Iran and just like millions of others left your amazing Islamic Republic, lol. So nothing you say can ever carry any weight because we both know if you meant it then you'd have some big time animosity towards your own parents. You are just lashing out cause I embarrassed you  by stating some facts about who and what you are. There's no real impact to anything you say, lol. 

At the end of the day, one of us fled the country of our birth as a refugee in a boat then continues to cry about it online, and it isn't me, lol. Did you leave your family behind by the way? You didn't say.

Only one of us has met and spoken to most of the Iranian FS wrestling team (in Persian, despite your obsessive ranting about how I can't read the language), and I'm guessing it's not the mega talented refugee who ran away from Iran and left his family there while he cries online about how the regime is so evil and everyone should kill police officers in the streets and the US will bomb them soon. Do your parents know that their talented little refugee son who left them behind acts like this? 

Edited January 12 by Bulldozer Without Brakes