Sammy Sasso arrested

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, WrestleFan12 said:

You’ve actually made the point that represents how a lot of people feel these days. Simple weed possession should be treated like a standard speeding ticket. You pay a fine. It shouldn’t get you arrested, thrown in jail, and ruin employment options for you in the future.

But no one was arrested for simple weed possession in this case correct? 

[fishbane]

1 hour ago, PortaJohn said:

Antitroll has the best theory so far.  PA and OH have reciprocity with certain conditions for PA

Pennsylvania's Perspective:

Pennsylvania has reciprocity agreements with Ohio, meaning a Pennsylvania resident with an Ohio license can carry in Pennsylvania. 

However, Pennsylvania requires its residents to have a Pennsylvania-issued license to carry concealed within the state, even if they have a valid license from another state with reciprocity, like Ohio. 

My point is that there could be wiggle room if that is the case.  What if someone has a a residence in both OH and PA?  What if he still had a residence in OH and is _in the process_ of moving to PA?  The announcement of his hiring was 19 days ago so it's possible.

And how would the police that pulled him over know that he is a resident of PA?  He had OH tags on the car that were expired.  Did he hand them a PA driver's license?  Or did he talk himself into trouble by saying he had moved to PA?  If the later then he may have just been imprecise in what he said.  If he still has a residence in OH and had been moving stuff to his parent's in preparate to relocate - staying there whilst looking for a place he may not be considered a PA resident yet.

If he doesn't beat the weapon and drug charges then his mistake will likely mean that he cannot get a PA concealed carry permit in the future.

[WrestleFan12]

30 minutes ago, ionel said:

But no one was arrested for simple weed possession in this case correct? 

Not sure. I took the comment first, get the facts later approach.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

38 minutes ago, ionel said:

But no one was arrested for simple weed possession in this case correct? 

He would have also probably been in a lot of trouble if he had imbibed any amount of alcohol, and likely if there was an open container within reach. (I am not 100% knowledgeable about PA gun laws, but I do know them in my state).  It isn't necessarily that its "just weed," any substance would have gotten him into a lot of trouble at that point.  Also, I think PA may be particular about the method of THC delivery.

[npope]

2 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

I work in certain locations in Philadelphia and will have two handguns in my vehicle with an extra loaded mag for each handgun.  I also have a permit.  If you were to ask me I would say it's foolish not to

I will grant you that different environments have different norms. That said, a quick internet search finds that 44% of Americans own at least one firearm of some sort. Of that 44%, 33% own (at least one) handgun. That gets us down to 14% (44% x 33% = 14%) of Americans own at least one handgun. God knows how many own multiple handguns, but 14% own at least one. How many people keep that handgun in their car? I have no idea, but it is likely significantly less than the 14% already identified.

I am just saying that those of you who pack-n-carry (any gun, much less multiple guns) are the outlier - NOT the norm in America.

[ionel]

13 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

He would have also probably been in a lot of trouble if he had imbibed any amount of alcohol, and likely if there was an open container within reach. (I am not 100% knowledgeable about PA gun laws, but I do know them in my state).  It isn't necessarily that its "just weed," any substance would have gotten him into a lot of trouble at that point.  Also, I think PA may be particular about the method of THC delivery.

Kind've my point.  If stopped for speeding and have 5 of a 6 pack in the rear seat along with a duffle bag full of hand guns they are probably going to haul you in not just give a ticket and on your way.  

[HokieDave87]

None of the individual allegations would bother me in isolation but...

 

Loaded handgun: fine, should probably be properly registered but I can overlook that

Expired tags: Don't care - but know that your tags are expired and behave accordingly

Weed stuff: Don't care but while driving is stupid

Three extra handguns in the car: If he's specifically on his drive to move, sure but probably lock them away. Any other case this one is weird.

All of the above: That's a bit shady. If this were a guy named Pat Downey or AJ Ferrari everybody would be skewering him. He's very likeable and historically is a good dude but this is a bad look.

 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

Kind've my point.  If stopped for speeding and have 5 of a 6 pack in the rear seat along with a duffle bag full of hand guns they are probably going to haul you in not just give a ticket and on your way.  

Yes.  I was just clarifying for the 420 crowd that it wasn't just a weed thing.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

12 minutes ago, HokieDave87 said:

None of the individual allegations would bother me in isolation but...

 

Loaded handgun: fine, should probably be properly registered but I can overlook that

Expired tags: Don't care - but know that your tags are expired and behave accordingly

Weed stuff: Don't care but while driving is stupid

Three extra handguns in the car: If he's specifically on his drive to move, sure but probably lock them away. Any other case this one is weird.

All of the above: That's a bit shady. If this were a guy named Pat Downey or AJ Ferrari everybody would be skewering him. He's very likeable and historically is a good dude but this is a bad look.

 

What about the location of the handgun that wasn't "extra?"

[billyhoyle]

1 hour ago, HokieDave87 said:

None of the individual allegations would bother me in isolation but...

 

Loaded handgun: fine, should probably be properly registered but I can overlook that

Expired tags: Don't care - but know that your tags are expired and behave accordingly

Weed stuff: Don't care but while driving is stupid

Three extra handguns in the car: If he's specifically on his drive to move, sure but probably lock them away. Any other case this one is weird.

All of the above: That's a bit shady. If this were a guy named Pat Downey or AJ Ferrari everybody would be skewering him. He's very likeable and historically is a good dude but this is a bad look.

 

The one difference is this guy was almost murdered not too long ago, and had his entire dream and what he thought was his future taken away from him. Drugs and guns seems like a reasonable human response to this. Drugs as pain management (mental and physical) and the guns for self defense but realistically as a way to feel safe.  

Obviously though, this is not a healthy way to deal with the situation. I think the response here should be to get him help.  But yeah, he probably shouldn't be coaching for a few months until this is resolved. 

[Antitroll2828]

2 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

He would have also probably been in a lot of trouble if he had imbibed any amount of alcohol, and likely if there was an open container within reach. (I am not 100% knowledgeable about PA gun laws, but I do know them in my state).  It isn't necessarily that its "just weed," any substance would have gotten him into a lot of trouble at that point.  Also, I think PA may be particular about the method of THC delivery.

You are correct ,if you have had any alcohol or have an open container in your vehicle your CC permit is invalid , same situation with the weed even if Sammy was completely in the right with his CC permit that all goes out the window the second they have find the weed PA is very clear about this with there carrying laws concealed or open.

yea PA has weird delivery method laws, vapes with thc are legally sold as well as some flower but allegedly it’s missing one compound from your regular run of mill weed but has the same effects so it’s technically not illegal until its physically burning .I had this explained to me by a hippie running a weed booth at a county fair , he also explained cops can’t differentiate just by looking at it so anyone caught with anything gets arrested and it’s sent to a lab for analysis so maybe Sammy gets lucky and has some of that funny legal weed 

PA votes every single year to legalize it and it still hasn’t passed and idk if they will anytime soon , Philly has completely decriminalized it , the little park next to my hotel for ncaas (where I randomly ran into Sonny Sasso) was filled all day long with people from all walks of life smoking every way imaginable 

[ionel]

10 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

I had this explained to me by a hippie running a weed booth at a county fair ...

 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, billyhoyle said:

The one difference is this guy was almost murdered not too long ago, and had his entire dream and what he thought was his future taken away from him. Drugs and guns seems like a reasonable human response to this. Drugs as pain management (mental and physical) and the guns for self defense but realistically as a way to feel safe.  

Obviously though, this is not a healthy way to deal with the situation. I think the response here should be to get him help.  But yeah, he probably shouldn't be coaching for a few months until this is resolved. 

This may have had a deleterious effect on his future as well.

[Pinnacle]

7 hours ago, npope said:

Geeezzz, hell's bells! Yes, and it is possible that he had been hired to move some gun shop's supply of handguns to a new location. The point isn't that there couldn't be some rational, albeit unlikely, explanation. Rather, the issue is that four handguns in a car is not normal, even though some on this forum seem to have an empathetic bent toward driving a car with multiple weapons available. The point is that it is NOT normal - but rather, it is abnormal - whether a poster does the same thing or not. If a poster also carries four weapons in the car then they too are behaving in an abnormal way - by definition. We don't even have to get into the rationale for doing so; four handguns in the car is not normal behavior. 

That's not to say that there couldn't be an explanation (as you supply as a possibility), but without such an actual explanation, that behavior is abnormal and deserving of scrutiny.

 

I would agree with you that having 4 handguns in a car for self defense is not normal. It is also completely impractical. But there is a time when individuals very well might have 4 handguns and I provided an explanation of one type of situation.

I make no representation here about the drugs or permit issues. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

58 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

 

I would agree with you that having 4 handguns in a car for self defense is not normal. It is also completely impractical. But there is a time when individuals very well might have 4 handguns and I provided an explanation of one type of situation.

I make no representation here about the drugs or permit issues. 

A Tarantino movie?

[HokieDave87]

2 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

A Tarantino movie?

A few very rare situations that require a lot of assumptions could make this nothing but bad luck

[The Kid]

3 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

You are correct ,if you have had any alcohol or have an open container in your vehicle your CC permit is invalid , same situation with the weed even if Sammy was completely in the right with his CC permit that all goes out the window the second they have find the weed PA is very clear about this with there carrying laws concealed or open.

yea PA has weird delivery method laws, vapes with thc are legally sold as well as some flower but allegedly it’s missing one compound from your regular run of mill weed but has the same effects so it’s technically not illegal until its physically burning .I had this explained to me by a hippie running a weed booth at a county fair , he also explained cops can’t differentiate just by looking at it so anyone caught with anything gets arrested and it’s sent to a lab for analysis so maybe Sammy gets lucky and has some of that funny legal weed 

PA votes every single year to legalize it and it still hasn’t passed and idk if they will anytime soon , Philly has completely decriminalized it , the little park next to my hotel for ncaas (where I randomly ran into Sonny Sasso) was filled all day long with people from all walks of life smoking every way imaginable 

I live in PA and we have never voted on medical or recreational cannabis legislation or laws.

 

The government has allowed medical cannibis in PA.  Just about anyone can get a medical card. Anxiety is a qualifier.

But, again we the people, have never voted on this issue like our neighbors in Ohio.

[Antitroll2828]

8 minutes ago, The Kid said:

I live in PA and we have never voted on medical or recreational cannabis legislation or laws.

 

The government has allowed medical cannibis in PA.  Just about anyone can get a medical card. Anxiety is a qualifier.

But, again we the people, have never voted on this issue like our neighbors in Ohio.

It hasn’t reached the people bc it gotten voted down by the legislature for years now , they just voted again in May

[The Kid]

27 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

It hasn’t reached the people bc it gotten voted down by the legislature for years now , they just voted again in May

They did, they being the state senate.  But, not the voters of this corrupt State.

 

[PortaJohn]

13 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

It hasn’t reached the people bc it gotten voted down by the legislature for years now , they just voted again in May

 

13 hours ago, The Kid said:

They did, they being the state senate.  But, not the voters of this corrupt State.

 

PA is absolutely stupid on this issue.  Probably the reason it's getting voted down is because certain politicians need to secure the grower/processor and dispensary permits to certain individuals.  I know someone who looked into it and reached out to someone about the process and they point blank said, "Are you related to someone important?  If not, no chance in hell.  There's going to be a lot of money in this."

 

[IllegalFist2Back]

 

[TexRef]

On 7/17/2025 at 2:42 PM, ionel said:

Is this your standard Ohio State going away gift bag?

"before denying consent to search the OSU bag. He admitted it contained additional firearms, and police seized the vehicle and obtained a search warrant, court records say. The bag was then found to contain three handguns: an FN 9mm, Walther .380-caliber and Glock 27 .40-caliber, according to the court records."

I just hope the FN was the 509 Tactical with the threaded barrel. 

[jackwebster]

just in a case a situation requiring the *** checks notes *** 

6 hours ago, TexRef said:

the 509 Tactical with the threaded barrel. 

arises. evil doers with their own *** checks notes ***

6 hours ago, TexRef said:

 509 Tactical with the threaded barrel. 

are everywhere.

[TexRef]

1 hour ago, jackwebster said:

just in a case a situation requiring the *** checks notes *** 

arises. evil doers with their own *** checks notes ***

are everywhere.

I prefer the VP9 over the 509

[GV4444]

Individually, none of these charges are a big deal.   It seems way worse when it is a list.

Four hand guns?  In Texas, that would be called a good start.   But, it is nice balance so far.  Reciprocity rules used to be quite daunting, but have been getting much easier to understand.  

Vape pen?  Oh my, crime of the century.  Now, driving under the influence is a problem, but I don't think that was one of the charges.

Registration expired, another major crime.  When I moved to State College, all I had for almost two years was a worn out paper saying I had a valid SC drives license, which I had lost at some point prior.   When I finally went to get a PA drivers license at some rural outpost (early 80's), Officer Friend didn't take kindly to me not having done it earlier.   He then gave me my exam orally.   He asked me crazy questions off the top of his head like maximum weight for a class C commercial license.  I failed and he handed me a book to study for the next attempt.  Learned my lesson, but I didn't do any jail time.

I hope it turns into a nothing burger.