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I get Jimbo alway reaching, but I’ll add a legitimate point here.  Sure individually some of them didn’t quite make it as far as last year but enter in people moving weights and coming back from injury or redshirts and you get some of that.  But on the team side of things the question would be was their “WAR” (in baseball terms) value enough to improve the teams chances. Did that team preform better by adding them to the lineup than if the squad went with who was slotted as the next man up instead.   I’d assume that’s a big enough yes for those teams to want to keep diving into the transfer portal to fill some of their gaps until a young recruit develops more. 

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2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

How many transfers ended up faring more poorly than before?

Nagao 5th -> DNP

Truax 4th -> 5th

Franek 5th -> 8th

Woods 2nd (at Iowa) -> 4th

Griffith 1st (past season) -> 3rd

Messenbeink cal b to —> to the ncaa finals. 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

How many transfers ended up faring more poorly than before?

Nagao 5th -> DNP

Truax 4th -> 5th

Franek 5th -> 8th

Woods 2nd (at Iowa) -> 4th

Griffith 1st (past season) -> 3rd

Caliendo-7th -4th

Davison 5th to finalist 

Oeljnik- 8th- 5th 

Slavakouski- R12- 7th

Gomez DNP- finalist 

Smith - DNP 0-2 - 6th

 

also Griffith 5th-3rd 

 

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Posted
19 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Messenbeink cal b to —> to the ncaa finals. 

Did messenbrink ever compete for another school? What was his ncaa placement there?

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Please remember most of these young men turned their back at schools who recruited and invested in them when no one else did.

 

exclude Gomez not sure how many schools he has been at 

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34 minutes ago, Fred said:

Did messenbrink ever compete for another school? What was his ncaa placement there?

He was at Cal Baptist.  They gave him an offer that he accepted but then he kinda blew up after at the age group World Trials and World Championships. He choose to honor his commitment to them after.  If I have this right he competed in two open matches as a redshirt, then decided he needed to look at other options cause Cal Baptist didn’t seem to be a fit for his ambitions. He went home to finish his class work online.  Then got PSU to pick him up   

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/10319660-why-mitchell-mesenbrink-is-entering-the-portal

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Fred said:

Did messenbrink ever compete for another school? What was his ncaa placement there?

I dunno.   Jordan burrows just confirmed Messenbrink was on the cal Baptist roster last year.  Ask him what that means ?

Posted
3 hours ago, Fred said:

Did messenbrink ever compete for another school? What was his ncaa placement there?

Never even wrestled.

2BPE 11/17/24 SMC

Posted
4 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I dunno.   Jordan burrows just confirmed Messenbrink was on the cal Baptist roster last year.  Ask him what that means ?

No he wasn't.

2BPE 11/17/24 SMC

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3 hours ago, MadMardigain said:

He was at Cal Baptist.  They gave him an offer that he accepted but then he kinda blew up after at the age group World Trials and World Championships. He choose to honor his commitment to them after.  If I have this right he competed in two open matches as a redshirt, then decided he needed to look at other options cause Cal Baptist didn’t seem to be a fit for his ambitions. He went home to finish his class work online.  Then got PSU to pick him up   

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/10319660-why-mitchell-mesenbrink-is-entering-the-portal

 

nope

2BPE 11/17/24 SMC

Posted
Just now, MadMardigain said:

Care to clarify what “nope” refers to?

Messenbrink was never at Cal B.

2BPE 11/17/24 SMC

Posted
4 hours ago, MadMardigain said:

I get Jimbo alway reaching, but I’ll add a legitimate point here.  Sure individually some of them didn’t quite make it as far as last year but enter in people moving weights and coming back from injury or redshirts and you get some of that.  But on the team side of things the question would be was their “WAR” (in baseball terms) value enough to improve the teams chances. Did that team preform better by adding them to the lineup than if the squad went with who was slotted as the next man up instead.   I’d assume that’s a big enough yes for those teams to want to keep diving into the transfer portal to fill some of their gaps until a young recruit develops more. 

Love the WAR reference. 

Posted

Messenbrink was an absolute badass before he got to Penn state. Even beat   Haines. He is not an example supporting your point 

Posted
Just now, Fred said:

Messenbrink was an absolute badass before he got to Penn state. Even beat   Haines. He is not an example supporting your point 

Messenbrink again, who is this guy, is he related to Stevenson?  

2BPE 11/17/24 SMC

Posted
1 minute ago, ionel said:

Messenbrink again, who is this guy, is he related to Stevenson?  

Yes, I believe so

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