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What wrestlers had an incredible year that included anything from most ranked wins, most bonus point wins, most wins overall, and everything in between only for it to not end with a championship?

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46 minutes ago, blueandgold said:

What wrestlers had an incredible year that included anything from most ranked wins, most bonus point wins, most wins overall, and everything in between only for it to not end with a championship?

David Carr 2022-2023 season comes to mind. Had 3 wins over NCAA Champs, 4 wins over guys that made an NCAA final, and 8 wins over guys that were All-Americans.

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In the 10 weight era 1952-present - though in 1966-69 there were 11) there have been 44 #1 seeds who failed to AA. That is probably a good place to start.

1964 was the toughest year for #1 seeds. Three failed to AA. At 130 Pitts Mike Johnson lost in the first round and must have been injured because he MFF'd the consolation. At 157 Jumpin Jack Flasche lost in the quarters and did not make the consolation bracket. At heavyweight Jim Nance also lost in the quarters and decided to start his broadcasting career immediately.

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#1 seeds that did not AA 2001 - Present

2001 - 149 Reggie Wright, Oklahoma St - Lost in the blood round

2002 - 184 Scott Justus, Virginia Tech - L, W, L

2003 - 174 Greg Jones, West Virginia - Round of 16

2005 - 157 Alex Tirapelle, Illinois - Lost in the blood round

2007 - 197 Max Askren, Missouri - 0-2 BBQ

2009 - 165 Mack Lewnes, Cornell - 0-2 BBQ

2011 - 149 Darrion Caldwell, NC State - 1-2 injury default, MFF

2021 - 165 Alex Marinelli, Iowa - MFF in the blood round

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41 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Metcalf the year he lost to Caldwell. David Taylor's freshman year. Spencer Lee last year. Those are the ones that come to mind from recent memory

these and Dan Gable are good nominations.  Maybe Jon Trenge the year he lost in the last few seconds to Damion Hahn in the NCAA finals?  Was that the year before Trenge met Cael (bumping up a weight for his 4th NCAA title) in Albany?   

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5 minutes ago, Elevator said:

these and Dan Gable are good nominations.  Maybe Jon Trenge the year he lost in the last few seconds to Damion Hahn in the NCAA finals?  Was that the year before Trenge met Cael (bumping up a weight for his 4th NCAA title) in Albany?   

Has to be Gable. Pinned 31 of 34. The other three were a 23-3 win, a 9-4 win, and a 13-11 loss.

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A number of good answers here.....here's another one.....Steve Hunte Iowa 1976 and 1978 2 time Big Ten Champion 1977 and 1978.  Ranked #1 both years.  Seeded #1 in '77 and Seeded #2 in 1978.  He went 0-1 in '77  and 3 and 2 in '78, not placing either year.

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1 hour ago, Fadzaev2 said:

A number of good answers here.....here's another one.....Steve Hunte Iowa 1976 and 1978 2 time Big Ten Champion 1977 and 1978.  Ranked #1 both years.  Seeded #1 in '77 and Seeded #2 in 1978.  He went 0-1 in '77  and 3 and 2 in '78, not placing either year.

Hunte drew Lehigh's Bob Sloand in the first round in '77.  Sloand had talent but was unseeded due to a roller coaster year.  He won 9-9, 3-2 against Hunte, won his second match, and then med forfeited the next day due to a knee injury.  Defeated wrestlers only wrestled back if they lost to semi-finalists back then, so Hunte was out.  Iowa finished 3rd, 11.5 points behind Iowa State; it probably cost Iowa the team title.

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I'll go with Lehigh's Colin Kilrain in 1981 and 1982.  Kilrain was seeded 1st in the 1981 tournament, based on an undefeated season including a win over Ed Banach, the eventual champion.  Colin lost 5-3 in the semis to Clarion's Charlie Heller and wrestled back for 3rd place. 

In 1982 Kilrain was again undefeated and seeded 1st, this time at 190; the other top seeds were Mike Mann, Bill Scherr, and Pete Bush.  Colin had beaten Mann and Bush during the season.  This was the tournament when Harold Nichols threw a fit over the 190-lb seeding and the seeding committee re-seeded the weight; Mann and Bush were originally seeded 2nd and 3rd and would have met in the semis.  Instead Kilrain met Bush in the semis and walked into a 44-second fall.  Bush beat Mann 3-3, 2-2, criteria for the title; Kilrain wrestled back and beat Scherr for 3rd.  Bush said it was the only time he beat Mann in a lifetime of trying.

Kilrain made a career of the Navy, became a Seal, recently retired as a Vice Admiral.  His wife is a retired astronaut.  One of their children, Sean, is on the Lehigh roster now.

 

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1 hour ago, jdalu75 said:

Hunte drew Lehigh's Bob Sloand in the first round in '77.  Sloand had talent but was unseeded due to a roller coaster year.  He won 9-9, 3-2 against Hunte, won his second match, and then med forfeited the next day due to a knee injury.  Defeated wrestlers only wrestled back if they lost to semi-finalists back then, so Hunte was out.  Iowa finished 3rd, 11.5 points behind Iowa State; it probably cost Iowa the team title.

I remember it well, I was there ....Noble Arena, University of Oklahoma.  

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I saw Mike Mann's name mentioned above....I have a number of his matches in my library.....he was a great one that never won it.  I just dug this up, because I knew had some great matches with Ed Banach (3 time NCAA Champion).......

Nov 27, 2018  Ed Banach vs. Mike Mann — These two four-time All-Americans met four times, and Mann won three of them. Banach won three NCAA titles and ...     The 3 losses were early season, but Ed won when it counted in the NCAA Finals.

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