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The EIWA conference didn’t fare well on Thursday and Friday, but went 9-1 on Saturday (Cardenas the only loss). Seems like a top heavy conference with only Cornell, Lehigh and Princeton performing well. Can Penn, Columbia and others close the distance next year?

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The conference members are slowly turning that around. PENN has a lot of team balance that translate into good dual team... Columbia (sort of) along the same lines.

But in order to climb into the top 20 team results @ The Animal Show, they would have to have at least one/two hammers in their roster. To climb up further, they'll have to add to More Hammers in the lineup... NOT an easy task since they're in competition w/ the rest of Div 1 teams. Success breeds success, and so called "monster" programs have a tendency to suck the oxygen out of the room when nabbing these prime recruits. The EIWA teams got to find a prime "selling point" to convince these blue-chippers into coming on to their campuses.

D3

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Penn has done a great job building a deep and balanced lineup (multiple EIWA placewinners and NQs) but they haven’t been able to break through to the NCAA podium (2 AAs in the last 10 years). Columbia definitely has talent and has improved quite a bit but probably a step behind Penn. Army/Navy/Binghamton/Drexel/Bucknell have some great wrestlers but haven’t had more than a handful of contenders for a while. It would be great to see AAs again from Harvard, Brown, and some of the others but the bottom half of the conference has really struggled in recent years. 

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5 minutes ago, Red95 said:

Penn has done a great job building a deep and balanced lineup (multiple EIWA placewinners and NQs) but they haven’t been able to break through to the NCAA podium (2 AAs in the last 10 years). Columbia definitely has talent and has improved quite a bit but probably a step behind Penn. Army/Navy/Binghamton/Drexel/Bucknell have some great wrestlers but haven’t had more than a handful of contenders for a while. It would be great to see AAs again from Harvard, Brown, and some of the others but the bottom half of the conference has really struggled in recent years. 

I think the Ivies will continue to recruit from the elite HSs that are also good at wrestling (Delbarton, Blair, Malvern).  Penn has gotten big names for a while now, and hasn't developed them like the other schools.  Leen is new at Brown; Leen and Delgado would seem like a great set of coaches to me.  

Is Monday gone?  Princeton seems to be in the situation Rutgers was in when they had 2 champs - they put more effort into those guys than everyone else and the rest of the team underperformend.  They will also get big name recruits for being such a great school.  

I heard from a reliable source that Columbia isn't as welcome now at the RTC as they once were.  That may impair their ability to improve.  They certainly seem better though.  

 

 

 

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I’m sure many EIWA teams are trying to figure out Cornell’s secret sauce, arguing admissions work arounds (Ag School), huge support from the AD (former head coach), Koll’s charisma and ability to attract top talent, etc. Yet other schools seem to be getting more admissions support, the AD and Koll are gone, and Grey is killing it this year. Something in the Ithaca water?

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11 minutes ago, PUWrestler said:

I’m sure many EIWA teams are trying to figure out Cornell’s secret sauce, arguing admissions work arounds (Ag School), huge support from the AD (former head coach), Koll’s charisma and ability to attract top talent, etc. Yet other schools seem to be getting more admissions support, the AD and Koll are gone, and Grey is killing it this year. Something in the Ithaca water?

Grey is doing great but it’s still too early for a verdict (good or bad). Most of the Cornell wrestlers were recruited by and trained under Koll. Grey of course had a huge part of that recruiting and training but I’m eager to see how the team performs with a full post-Koll lineup in a few years. 
 

But clearly Grey has passed a huge hurdle by driving peak performance through the coaching change. That hasn’t happened in many places. 

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37 minutes ago, Quaker118 said:

Zapf has graduated. Cosgrove should be at 197.  There will be a few good candidates looking to replace Zapf and Artelona. 

They also have CJ composto coming off greyshirt , he beat micic and AAed as a true freshman last year 

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I have pretty strong opinions on our performance this year, but I’m not as close to the team as I once was and am loathe to call out individual college students.

The Cosgrove/Urbas question next year is going to be an interesting one. 

I would also expect many of the incoming freshmen to challenge for spots in the middle of the lineup.

Dan McDonald, Penn '93
danmc167@yahoo.com

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